User Feedback :: Spanish Keyboard doesn't WORK!!!!!!!&#



Quote (roberts @ April 13 2006,16:36)
I am running with the es keymap.
Yikes, I don´t know what is supposed to happen...

But I do get Ñ,ñ,¿?

¿Is there some specific application that does not?

I don't get the rest. Accents, the ñ it is not into its place... so I have to guess where is each key. That's not the way. :D

Try (with the es keyboard) to get the # the @ and the €. I cannot. And What's hapenning with the accents? Do you obtain á é í ó ú pressing the key accent key. Into the spanish keyboard the keys are like that:

qwertyuiop
asdfghjklñ
zxcvbnm,.-

   And following the ñ key, in the centre line, should be the accent key and ç used in spanish variations like "Valencian" or used when writing French.

Quote (roberts @ April 13 2006,16:36)
>I am running with the es keymap.
>Yikes, I don´t know what is supposed to happen...

>But I do get Ñ,ñ,¿?

Sure?, perhaps you are in consele text mode, there, with the es keymap al seems to work, but in X, all is wrong:
1. The @ can not be obtained in firefox
2. Some alternate characters never works.
3. The most impoortant thing: WE HAVE NO DEAD KEYS, without it the system si simply unusable for a Spanish.

But I see more extrange things: in a statically compiled version of wine and winelib I am using to port some software, when I try to acces database objects created in windows, that work in other Linux distributions and are using in their names the characters ª or º, simply they are not regongnized at all giving an hard (very hard) to fix error, so it seems the trouble is more internal, but always about X, no about console aplications.

I Still find usefull (very usefull, it's the true) the Damm small distro, but for any final Spanish user (I use it for mounting servers, robots, and other things that do not take use of X) the keyboard issues are making the distro unusable. It' simply can't use our language. Perhaps the solution would be a full locales support (incrementiong the size ,I know but could be optional in a myDSL extension). I have benn trying to build locales, and a X server, but it's hard to do because of lacks (I know for size restrictions) of a lot of things needed for this . For the moment, I have not found any solution. Any one?

The final conclusion is that if DSL X could work as the real console , it would be fine. The questions is why it can't?

>I am running with the es keymap.
>Yikes, I don´t know what is supposed to happen...

>But I do get Ñ,ñ,¿?

Sure?, perhaps you are in consele text mode, there, with the es keymap al seems to work, but in X, all is wrong:
1. The @ can not be obtained in firefox
2. Some alternate characters never works.
3. The most impoortant thing: WE HAVE NO DEAD KEYS, without it the system si simply unusable for a Spanish.

But I see more extrange things: in a statically compiled version of wine and winelib I am using to port some software, when I try to acces database objects created in windows, that work in other Linux distributions and are using in their names the characters ª or º, simply they are not regongnized at all giving an hard (very hard) to fix error, so it seems the trouble is more internal, but always about X, no about console aplications.

I Still find usefull (very usefull, it's the true) the Damm small distro, but for any final Spanish user (I use it for mounting servers, robots, and other things that do not take use of X) the keyboard issues are making the distro unusable. It' simply can't use our language. Perhaps the solution would be a full locales support (incrementiong the size ,I know but could be optional in a myDSL extension). I have benn trying to build locales, and a X server, but it's hard to do because of lacks (I know for size restrictions) of a lot of things needed for this . For the moment, I have not found any solution. Any one?

The final conclusion is that if DSL X could work as the real console , it would be fine. The questions is why it can't?

What Jesus means for accents is Dead Key, that in conjunction with vocals produce acutes . á é í'ó ú ö ï ü ë ä  and the same with the Upercase ones. As I said before, this roblems is only in X, if you run in text mode level, you have no problems, so the problems is why X do not work in the same way.
To edit a Keymap does not seem to be a solution, because of I said before: 1. No dead key suport 2. there is something internal (confussion with variables in wine this shows, I think,  that no only yo can't write but the system also does not also understands properly some codes)

For the Alt Gr key I guess you tried replacing in .xinitrc "de" with "es" after the line # For German Keyboards ? It seems this fixed the Italian keyboard too. Apart from that unless your machine is really old I can only suggest to use XFree86, it has much better i18n support than Xvesa.

Also answering LOst's question to display the language you want in Firefox all you need are the fonts. I've got a cjk-fonts.uci for Chinese, Japanese and Korean... (might send it to Robert as more users seem to ask for that). Input is another story !

spock, I think it might be a great idea to get a list of keyboards besides the german (de) one that need that line in the .xinitrc file.  I don't know if it works for Spanish, but from previous posts it looks like it works for

Belgian azerty
se-latin1
Norwegian
Italian (from this thread)
and I'd swear scandinavian from a post of meo's, although I can't find it now

Maybe we need to change the .xinitrc file from looking for de keyboard to looking at anything but US keyboards.

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