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I stripped away xtdesk, emelfm, fluxbox, and jwm. Slightly modified UCI to become well behaved ROX Application Directories, then with an old Oroborus WM and Rox panel I had a menu-less ROX drag-N-drop desktop with MyDSL UCI's in the Apps folder running in DSL.

That's not radical, that's (bleeping) cool. Did you set a MIME type for UCI and then a run action to load and mount them directly or set run action to a script to mydsl-load and then mount/unmount them? I'm curious how you modified the UCIs to become "well behaved."
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.., well that will become very apparent later this month when a major annoucement will be made..
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Robert: Now I think I know how you set up your UCIs as AppDirs (not sure how you modified them, though). Don't tell me! I'm going to try after the game tonight or tomorrow and see if I can figure it out.
Hi all,

1.  John's original concept and Robert's fine exposition of it is a proven, winning formula viz.

Functional, fun desktop + 50MB cap = damnsmalllinux

Everyone loves it.  So, whatever else may happen, I'd hate to see the "dsl classic" side of the project simply dissappear - that would be foolish.  And people need a single cd dsl like it is ie boot it and use it, no fooling around with loading modules.  Whichever kernel and whatever other directions are pursued, I really think that's what defines dsl.

2. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean there isn't room for experimentation on the side.  I absolutely *love* the sound of the Rox Desktop dsl.  Even if it goes nowhere Robert, please post your efforts somewhere so we can play with it.

Changing kernels: I personally would like to see a more advanced 2.4.34 50MB dsl, but I'm mindful this resulted in alienating the old hardware users last time (2.4.31).  How many of them are there?  Are they a small percentage of users?  Can this be worked around?

Finally:  I thought the dsl classic + dsl-n model was a very good one, providing two development paths for each kernel and moving ahead from dsl's old glibc and gtk1.  These are more of a barrier to new apps than the actual kernel.  I know there were resource problems, and these won't go away for another revision of the dsl project (I may take this up with Robert privately as I have some ideas).    I do think however dsl-n was alpha released a little early.  To garner more interest, it needed things like a few essential extensions ready to use, and a clear demarcation between dsl classic extensions and dsl-n extensions.  There still is a lot of interest and it would be really great to see dsl-n revitalized.

I guess obviously the limit is really how much in the way of resources Robert and John and the community can muster.

The modular approach sounds great and I would like it myself very much, but *not* if it's at the expense of a tight full desktop 50MB distro.  That needs to remain no matter what.  The people wanting the modular version are probably more advanced users and hobbyists, but dsl picks up a large number of totally new linux users all the time.  They need to be able to boot a single cd and see a working distro.

I could see a modularized dsl being an interesting child project perhaps for others to pursue if it's outside the resources of John & Robert to implement.

If economies of scale can be created so the work that goes into one arm of the project easily transfers to another, then great.

Anyway enough out of me tonight.
I would like to one day see the libraries/apps updated.  That would make compiling apps easier.   But that don't have to be anytime soon.  And Debian compatibility is not that important to me, it at best would be a nicety.  There are all kinds of alternatives if we want the latest and greatest.  Debian-Live will give us a Sarge or Etch live cd.  And there is always Knoppix.  But only DSL works with  old hardware (64 or less mb RAM).  
 Being a Woody fan, I appreciate the fact that DSL has remained with the Debian Woody base since (I think) the beginning.  And in a world of constant clamoring for the latest packages, DSL is rare haven for those of us who like to stick with what works.  But we also get treated to some of  the latest technologies in live cd's.  So in other words, stay the course, and keep up the good work Robert.
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