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Firstly, I'd like to thank you Lucky13. There is a whole world of haters that I'll be subjected to if I decide to use steroids, no matter how quiet I keep it. It's been a lesson for me.

Secondly, I'd like to thank the mods and admin here for allowing this dribble to go on this long. Even if it's only because you haven't spotted it yet. I got my answer regarding DSL and also had an opportunity to learn something valuable, allthough off topic.


If I were competing in sports, I wouldn't even consider steroids.

I doubt you've considered the practicality of having the raw strength to carry an unconcious firefighter in full equipment (wearing full equipment yourself) but if something happened, I'm sure he'd appreciate it and honestly that means more to me than your personal opinion ever could.

If you'd like to continue this conversation, I'd suggest we do it on a forum dedicated to this sort of topic.

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Actually, it's a press release from the University of Michigan Health System. Doctors, researchers, professionals in biochemistry, that kind of thing. Didn't expect that to impress you since it's not preaching from your choir of amateur endocrinologists who always seem to know better than doctors, researchers, professionals in biochemistry, that kind of thing.

Truthfully, I don't care who wrote it. It's one sided. It's forcing a decision on you, not encouraging you to make your own. In one abstract motion it encompasses everything that is pathetic about our society.
To clarify a little (and because I like to hear myself type)...

I agree that there is a difference between using a drug for recreation/pleasure and using one to cheat. I think cheating falls under the category of "wrong" because you are taking an unfair advantage over others. If steriod use were not forbidden in competitive events, I would not feel it was cheating...every competitor would have the same option while still playing by the rules. Before jumping on an apparent conflict with what I said ealier: Rules in games are not, in my opinion, subject to the same moral judgments as rules in "real life" (also known as "laws") because the nature of competition requires strict rules in order determine the performance of the competitiors. I do not believe that life is a competition, which seems to be contrary to popular belief, and thus allows the individual to decide for himself what is fair (hopefully basing his decisions on something a bit more reasonable than "if it feels good, do it").

Using steroids to enhance your ability to do your job is something I am undecided on. If it were not for the apparent negative impact they are said to have, I would say there is no problem as long it's not going to get you fired. However, my lack of knowedge about steroids means that for all I know the ads might be right, and the user may be putting more than himself at risk if his job requires quick wits, mind/body control, and the ability to keep from crumbling into little jagged marble pieces while trying to save peoples lives.
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I doubt you've considered the practicality of having the raw strength to carry an unconcious firefighter in full equipment (wearing full equipment yourself)


I'm a former volunteer fireman (I lived in very rural area without a full-time fire department). I also have many friends in both law enforcement and firefighting. I'm familiar firsthand with both the risks of that job -- I did it without pay, without benefits, without a schedule and permanently on-call -- and with the policies municipalities have to crackdown on drug abuse, including anabolic steroids, among police and firefighters.

http://www.efdlocal742.com/article_xiv.htm
http://www.ci.phoenix.az.us/FIRE/recruit.html
http://home2.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/pr/2007/042007_2007.shtml
Etc.

I hope you get tested if you do take steroids. Lawbreakers shouldn't get to enforce laws. You name the forum and I'll address the facts with you. The question is how open your mind is about the issue.

Finally, this isn't about "hating," this isn't about forcing an opinion on you. It's against others contributing to, encouraging, enabling, assisting, or even advising you in your illegal and self-destructive behavior. I said they can let you find out on your own -- you shouldn't have dragged DSL into your criminal enterprise, no matter how you try to justify it to yourself. I have no qualms about helping people protect themselves and their data from criminals. I have no use for those who abuse technology, or help others use it, to break laws that hurt themselves or others.
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Using steroids to enhance your ability to do your job is something I am undecided on. If it were not for the apparent negative impact they are said to have, I would say there is no problem as long it's not going to get you fired.


Most fire departments and police departments in the US test for drugs, including steroids, pre-employment and continue to screen for them during the course of employment. Many cities have zero-tolerance policies even for steroids because it makes no sense to let wanton, reckless lawbreakers enforce laws everyone else has to follow.
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Sadly, one of the responses was filled with political rants and condoned terrorism in certain instances.
Geez thanks.. I wouldn't tell something like that in a public location, not even about you...

If it was filled with political rants, then why did I keep it short, just as examples?
You may say they're rants, but you didn't say they were false. Good. You accept the truth.
Your believing "all laws are good and must not be violated" is just blindness, I just tried to show that...

"condoning" is just about the point of view. Many Vietnamese/Irakian/whatever would say US does the terrorism, and their guys are heroes/freedom fighters.

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You couldn't stick to the issue of ethics, so you've devolved the thread into political hyperbole
are you saying ethics were not associated at all with those points? You dragged child and terrorism in, what kind of "hyperbole" would that be?

What's with the word "feds"? If you hear it from the tv, you may use it....

And lucky13, if he hadn't said the cause, you would've helped him. If you then found out the cause, what would you do? Erase all your posts?
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