DSL Ideas and Suggestions :: How about ROX as an icon manager

Quote (hasty @ May 04 2004,15:21)

Wow    Has DSL come to this so soon? Wars of religion over 50mb true believers  & hd install apostates willing to embrace more   <pulls chair up close to screen & refills glass>                                  Don't mind me pray continue..................

"true believers"...
You sound like Stan Lee.

Hasty, correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't see shit like this on other distro forums.  If you went into a Slackware, Debian or RedHat forum and started talking about the benefits of another distro in their forum, you'd get eaten alive.

The only other user-base I've run across that does this is Gentoo users.  Now, Gentoo is a great distro, I'm not gonna use it, personally, because I don't have the time to tie up my machine in order to compile an entire distro.  If I were gonna use Gentoo, the optimization from compiling everything from source is very compelling and as a long time Debian user, I think I could get used to Portage.  There are some very knowledgable Gentoo users who are very friendly and helpful, but for every helpful one I meet, I run across ten assholes I want to strangle.

This is probably a personal failing of mine.  There are certain bands I hate because of their fans, Matchbox20 comes, readily, to mind.  There's nothing inherently wrong with the band, or it's music, but everytime I think of matchbox20, or hear one of their songs, I think of the vast majority of vapid losers I want to throttle that listen to and promote the band and I get sick to my stomach.

It's hard to reconcile the large amount of dirtbags I meet with the relatively few polite Gentoo users I've had the pleasure of running across.  I'm getting the same situation with Luit only without the helpful, knowledgable users.  I haven't seen many useful contributions from the Luit crowd on these forums, only "telemarketing-like" Join Luit Now! It has X app not provided by rival DSL.  It's like they're a AOL commercial slamming MSN or vice versa.

Put all of my personal opinions aside, the Luit postings on this forum are an insult to John and Robert.  To disrespect either of these gentlemen by bascially spamming these forums with Luit propaganda makes my hackles rise. Luit users might as well be saying that all of their hard work is for nothing,  that DSL is basically worthless because it doesn't include the Gimp or Abiword on the liveCD.  What's to keep hdinstall users from installing these apps?  Air and opportunity?  What if a Microsoft user came into the forum spouting the same nonsense, "This has been available in Windows since '95", how many users would join me in pointing the troll to the door then?

I'm not deriding the hdinstall, it's a logical step, but the primary purpose for DSL's existence is as a business card-sized liveCD.  It says as much right on the main page.  Any other addition to the distro is extraneous to it's purpose.

There's room for both Luit and Damn Small.  Damn Small's room is here, Luit users need to go to their own forums like anyone with any amount of courtesy or etiquette would do.  As long as they continue to exhibit the discourtesy of proselytizing DSL users on this forum I'll just as adamantly tell them to #### off.

Apologies Grim
Post was humourous to me but drink had been taken............ymmv

You know a distro has matured when holy wars break out.
I've lurked on the slackware NG for over 6 years and never dared post.
Very informative but like sharks they respond to blood in the water.

The success of the distro is indicative of it's response to a wide variety of needs amongst it's users.
For some it the portable nature while for others it's a great way to revive old hardware.

The latter with hard disk installs will always be looking for little extras, so they will take an interest in what others have chosen to include.
John has done a brilliant job with dsl, and with imitation being the sincerest form of flattery, all the other variants are confirmation of this. A broad church will have a wide cross section of adherents.

I freely confess to having tried all forks, clones & hacks (and any others that may appear) - a serial mix & matcher seeking the perfect distro.
In the past I've tried all the other older mini distros like Puppy,coyote,muLinux, Nuclinux, etc., and even tried rolling my own by stripping down slack as much as I could (not so easy). One thing I learnt is that it's easier to build up from a small base than strip down from a large one. (Good page on stripping down slack http://home.earthlink.net/~gnashley/phnxhtml/Phoenix8_1howto.htm)

Since I've lead a sheltered life and never seen a 50mb cd my version of damn small has freebird, gimp2 & open office. One for manipulating digiphotos for my web site and OO for dealing with word docs from work.

Enough rambling, the other great asset of damn small is it's user board and the attitude of it's users.

ps Grim a new sig

Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day
Set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life
Terry Pratchett

Grims fairy tales huh,
You must be the big green one with the funny ears