Hardware Talk :: Question about two systems on the store



Going with an external HD is not an option. Going with a flash drive is not an option. Waiting for ungodly expensive microdrives in the 20GB range is not an option. I simply want to know if these are IDE connectors and if the case provides space for a 2.5 or a 3.5 hard drive. If so, I'm all over it. If not, oh well.
Quote (deeztech @ April 25 2006,17:25)
Going with an external HD is not an option. Going with a flash drive is not an option. Waiting for ungodly expensive microdrives in the 20GB range is not an option. I simply want to know if these are IDE connectors and if the case provides space for a 2.5 or a 3.5 hard drive. If so, I'm all over it. If not, oh well.

yes..there are!

http://www.psism.com/adcf.htm
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=16
http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/products_id/337
http://linitx.com/product_info.php?products_id=644

Brian
AwPhuch
Amazingly nobody has answered my question yet. Everyone is dancing around the subject. The question is simple. Do any of those cases support hard drives? Not CF cards, not IDE to CF card adapters. Just simple IDE hard drives. Why do people insist on posting on this topic without answering my question? If you don't know the answer, don't bother posting. I believe I was VERY specific with my question. The last post was my favorite. I actually got excited that someone had answered my question until I saw that every link you posted was a link for an IDE to CF adapter. WTF? What does that have to do with my question. I wonder why you posted this sir?

I'm not trying to start an argument. I just want someone who knows and has had experience with those cases that I mentioned at my very first post to answer whether or not these cases will accomodate either a 2.5 or a 3.5 IDE hard drive. I would love to hear from the gentlemen that run the DSL store since I figure they would know about these cases.
Quote (deeztech @ April 25 2006,10:23)
I will not be installing DSL on them cause I need functionality that DSL doesn't provide and I also need large amount of hard drive space. Any help would be appreciated.

I guess you didn't really mean that any help would be appreciated.

Anyway, to be more specific to your case...
here is a quote from the store concerning the BarBones mini-ITX:
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This super compact Mini-ITX barebones system is the best Mini-ITX deal on the net. It is very speedy and extremely compact. Though perfect as a speedy, thin client, I am sure most DSL users would prefer to use it with a mini-drive, compact flash, or via USB boot.

That seems to suggest it will accept a small hard drive, like a laptop sized one. If you look a the specs of the case and the (rather large) photos, then you will notice that the heat sink for the CPU touches the top of the case. That doesn't leave much space for anything else, but it's possible to cram a 2.5 inch hard drive in there.

As for the nano-itx, the same situation applies. If you read the description and look at the photos, it's pretty clear that there is very little space inside the case. There is enough for an IDE powered CF or microdrive, because that is one of the options they offer.:

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The case
The case is made from a thick die cast and it butts right up against the CPU heat-sink to ensure fanless heat transfer, and there is a thin plastic film which needs to be removed from on top of the heat-sink before you boot your DSM. Overall, this is a very nice compact package with an integrated supply.

As requested
We are now offering different Damn Small Machine packages. In addition to the USB package (this page),we are also offering DSM with 1GB IDE Flash drive, and with a 512MB IDE Flash Drive, as well as a Diskless Option.  


Of course, if you wanted to contact the store operator directly, that information is also on the store page.
orders_at_damnsmalllinux.org
Quote (doobit @ April 26 2006,10:01)
I guess you didn't really mean that any help would be appreciated.

Anyway, to be more specific to your case...
here is a quote from the store concerning the BarBones mini-ITX:
Quote
This super compact Mini-ITX barebones system is the best Mini-ITX deal on the net. It is very speedy and extremely compact. Though perfect as a speedy, thin client, I am sure most DSL users would prefer to use it with a mini-drive, compact flash, or via USB boot.

That seems to suggest it will accept a small hard drive, like a laptop sized one. If you look a the specs of the case and the (rather large) photos, then you will notice that the heat sink for the CPU touches the top of the case. That doesn't leave much space for anything else, but it's possible to cram a 2.5 inch hard drive in there.

As for the nano-itx, the same situation applies. If you read the description and look at the photos, it's pretty clear that there is very little space inside the case. There is enough for an IDE powered CF or microdrive, because that is one of the options they offer.:

Quote
The case
The case is made from a thick die cast and it butts right up against the CPU heat-sink to ensure fanless heat transfer, and there is a thin plastic film which needs to be removed from on top of the heat-sink before you boot your DSM. Overall, this is a very nice compact package with an integrated supply.

As requested
We are now offering different Damn Small Machine packages. In addition to the USB package (this page),we are also offering DSM with 1GB IDE Flash drive, and with a 512MB IDE Flash Drive, as well as a Diskless Option.  


Of course, if you wanted to contact the store operator directly, that information is also on the store page.
orders_at_damnsmalllinux.org

Well, I think any reasonable person would assume that when I say ANY help would be appreciated it means on the topic that I have started. Here's an example to make this clear: You go up to someone on the street to ask directions and instead of giving you directions they start talking about the large growth of puss on their ass. Would that strike you as weird and completely off the topic? This is exactly what you did with your last post.

Forgive my ignorance, but, I always thought that a mini-drive is something like a usb flash drive or a micro drive. I'm quite sure that  if someone means a 2.5" IDE drive they would actually use the term "2.5" IDE drive". I could be wrong though. See, I don't like making assumptions, blowing $200+ and finding out that I was wrong or the nice person who tried to help on the forums didn't have a clue about the subject and since I trusted them now I'm stuck with a piece of hardware that I cannot use.

Also, believe me, I would MUCH rather talk to the "store operator directly" but that "information" is not the store page. Not that I can see anyhow. Maybe it's cleverly hidden. I don't see the address orders_at_damnsmalllinux.org anywhere on the site. I'll tell you what though, I will use the e-mail address you posted on this topic and see if I can get a hold of them. At the very least you provided me with some useful information. I'm not really sure if you meant it or not, but thank you nonetheless.
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