Release Candidates :: DSL-2.2RC1

Quote (crusadingknight @ Jan. 26 2006,14:22)

Dropping FF doesn't make sense until most, or all of the goals described at the Dillo Goals page are completed. If it can't even read the output of NaturalDocs, what use is it beyond reading texinfo-generated pages?

I agree, I like dillo, but its not useable in the widest sense of the word, I *have* to use FF on a majority of websites I use *including this one* because dillo does not support main stream web design.
I hate to say it but if your gonna drop a browser from the base install drop dillo, its just not very handy, if i need a fast lite text browser i got lynx thats perfect for that sorta thing. And i'm diggin FF 1.0.6 an seeing that FF1.5.uci is in the test repository, well i'm gonna have to check it out. That'll open up a whole new world of FF extensions to me.

Anyway theres my .02 on the subject of browsers. in the end i like them both, but i USE firefox, dillo is well just not ready for my primetime yet.

Rob

As everybody else has a view, I might as well add mine ;)

I'd like to see the Madwifi package as part of the core installation as it's so useful and supports so many wireless cards.

I'd also like Abiword included (although a newer version than in the myDSL repository - the newer versions have grammar checking as well), as it's a proper word processor but not so large.

As for what to remove - if Abiword is there, then GUI text editors aren't so important (and there's nano for console-based editing). With Abiword, there's also the ability to read Word files, so Antiword isn't as important as a core package; the same goes for the spell checker package.

As long as one of FF and Dillo is included, the other can be downloaded. I'd suggest FF 1.5, if only because it's more widely known than Dillo, so any new users won't be put off DSL by not having a known browser. As nice as Dillo is in terms of speed, it just doesn't support all that is needed in a modern browser. I wouldn't object to Links returning, but anybody planning to console web browsing won't be a newbie, so will know how to get it from the myDSL repository anyway. Hell, why not Opera instead - an older version is in the myDSL respository.

As has been mentioned earlier, the games aren't so important, other than for providing a rounded desktop. They are easy enough to download separately anyway, and in any case, games are a personal preference issue, so just let people download what they want when they want it

I'd also like a more complete grub frugal installation script that has all the lilo options, rather than having to run the lilo one first, then the grub one. Even better - a single script that allows the user to choose (or just dump lilo, as grub is much nicer and easier to customise).

Perhaps apt-related packages should be moved to myDSL, as I thought that it was discouraged to install software using this method, so not giving the option immediately ought to encourage users to go down the myDSL path. This, of course, assumes that there are no dependencies that need them.

Also, if DSL is a desktop-oriented distro, are server packages (betaftpd to name one) so necessary in the base installation? I'd have thought that they could be myDSL packages.

Ultimately, with only 50mb it's not possible to do everything, but including a few larger apps that do pretty much everything that an app of that type should is more important than trying to cover every base, IMO. I'd much rather depth than breadth of apps.

There, now that's off my chest... ;)

I know you are going back to the previous kernel, but I noticed that 2.4.32 is out and has many fixes, including a workaround for the nvidia timing problem, and a memory leak. 2.1b is working great on my Toshiba laptop, so I'll probably stick with it there, but use whatever is the latest on other machines.I like having the full compliment of madwifi modules in the module package that Robert built. The 2.4.26 kernel only had the driver and basic connection modules.

Ted seems to work pretty well for me, and if it's smaller than FLwriter was, then leave it in. I like Beaver because it has highlighting built in, and WYSIWYG editing is nice. I can live with EmelFM and/or MC. The later versions of Firefox have the advantage of automatic plugin loading for some plugins such as Flash. It's good to have server packages, even on a desktop, because they make file, and information sharing easy. I think that's is essential in a light OS that is to be customized by the user. The community has done a nice job of preparing packages for DSL-1.5, so that's an advantage to base the newer versions of DSL on.

You can't be all things to all people, but DSL can be almost anything you need in an OS. I would encourage you to stick with your original vision of a light, flexible live CD, and let the documentation catch up to the point where people begin to understand it. I see a lot of newbees who don't yet understand the power of small and fast , and haven't taken the time to learn what I believe is a better operating system. That will take education, which requires clearly written documentation. The forum has become cluttered because they don't want to take the time to search for the answer instead of asking the same questions again and again.

Hi

I dl and burned 22RC1. Here are a problem I think is serious.

IT boots from the CD just fine, but on both of my computers i cannot make a pen drive install. It 'cannot mount sda1 (or sda, sda11 etc.) I tried 3 different Pen drives, all of which worked in 2.1B. I think this is a bug, because 2.1b works fine for this purpose.

On 2.1, when i did the process, it would display information about the USB pendrive. In 2.2RC1 it displays no information, it just goes on to the next item in the script, and then fails.

BTW --- the DSL bargain computer is just awesome --- I got it running today, but can only use 2.1, because of this bug.

Cheers :)

I did an USB-HDD and an USB-ZIP Pen Drive install from an USB-ZIP 2.2RC1 pendrive, so 2.2RC1 seems fine. In fact, I have not found any issue with it yet.

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