Apt-get :: Antiviral - pls don't ignore this post



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Grim

Your post is meant to be provocative but I'll reply anyway (once only).

First off, don't do me any favors.  I'm just making sure that you don't go off and make any of these new Linux users think they have to run out and buy anti-virus because "Linux has viruses too".  For day to day use, the probability for infection, while running a Linux OS is virtually nil.  Compare that to "I just re-installed Windows a half-hour ago and I'm already infested again".
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1. F-prot currently scans for 408 known unix/linux viruses in addition to many thousands on a number of other platforms including Windows.

Really?  Name five.  The last major "virus" under Linux was the Ramen worm and it only targeted Apache on specific builds of RedHat (5.something) and it wasn't even a virus, it was a worm (yes there is a difference).  Not only that, it was a benevloent worm. Checking for rootkits, or exploit vulnerabilities doesn't amount to the same thing as removing virii.  Anybody that really wants to get the skinny on Linux "viruses" needs to subscribe to the bugtraq mailing list.

Sounds like you fell for the marketing hype, bub.

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2. I've scanned my (Windows) hds from the dsl liveCD toram and it's fast -  faster than scanning the same drives with eg Norton AV within windows, which takes all day.  Also, you never know what type of downloads I may want to scan in the future - not only linux files - or what type of use I may put dsl to. And I'm working towards a hd install.
So, primarily, you're using f-prot to scan for Windows "viruses".  Funny, when I said it, I was being "provocative".

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3. The idea that only mail servers should scan files seems shortsighted.
How else do you expect a virus to get into your system?  Through the browser?  Maybe if Microsoft ports IE to Linux.  The sad fact of the matter is that the email is the primary vector for infection.  For everything else there's file permissions.  If you run an untrusted executable on your system, you deserve what you get,

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You're an opttimist
:laugh:  You don't know me very well.  Cynic, pessimist and pragmatist would all have been more accurate assessments.

And as far as the Mac OS  goes.  I've been running various flavors (8.6, 9.2, X) of Mac for the last three years, guess how many viruses in all that time?  None.  I've been running various flavors (RedHat, Mandrake, SuSE, Debian, Slackware, LOAF, tmsrtbt, DSL, etc...) of Linux over the past five years, guess how many viruses? None.

If you're running f-prot so that you can learn, then by all means, go ahead.  I'm not deriding you for running antivirus, I just don't want new Linux users to think that they have to go out and buy antivirus, because they don't.  You have a better chance at a threesome with Victoria Sercret models than you do at getting a virus under Linux.

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You have a better chance at a threesome with Victoria Sercret models than you do at getting a virus under Linux.

Really!!!!  /me goes to download a virus to get the chicks!!!
Woohoo....I still have a chance!!!!

ClamAV has a good "free" one too!

Brian
AwPhuch

Brian, you must get photo evidence of the deed should you choose to accept this mission. (dun-dun-DA-dun, dun-dun-DA-dun)
Gee thanks for your permission to run f-prot.

You said that f-prot did not scan for any viruses other than windows ones. You were wrong.

I didn't propose in a spirit of FUD that everyone should run off and panic, nor did I say there were a lot of linux viruses or that was a high risk at this time of getting infected (quite the opposite). That was your interpretation.

My reasons are my reasons and these are valid.

Now if you've stopped trolling, perhaps I can get back to enjoying dsl?  Or do you simply wish to be as unpleasant as you say you are?

I just sent 10 or so minutes writing a post that somehow vanished - if it reappears for some reason the following summary will seem somewhat repetitive (sorry) ...

Brian - thanks for your contructive response - I'll try your syntax after the weekend.  I copied that echo line verbatim from another board from a response to a similar cron query, which is not to say that it is neccessarily correct of course.

ke4nt1 - while you're unlikely to get much support for a Bitdefender.dsl from the Grim Gremlin himself, IMHO it would be v popular. If it would keep Grim "happy" (now there's a contradiction) you could always add a disclaimer about the present low risks of infection on linux (not to mention the imperviousness of a livecd boot).

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