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Posted: April 12 2006,04:49 QUOTE

The DSL website main page says that DSL
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Transforms into a Debian OS with a traditional hard drive install
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But how is that really done?  I suppose that the first steps would be

1) a regular HD install
2) enable full GNU
3) enable apt

What then?  How close to Debian can I get?  What are the repositories used?  I suppose that they would be stable Woody - right?  Could I change that to Sarge or Sid?  Has anyone tried this?

Is there a way to tweak DSL into a 'complete' Debian?  Is yes - is there a HOWTO -like step by step guide out there?

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Posted: April 12 2006,15:40 QUOTE

I dont know but easiest way is to install debian, it will save you from many problems.
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Posted: April 12 2006,15:47 QUOTE

That's quite true.  If you want a full debian installation, install Debian. You're going to loose most of the benefits you'd get from using DSL anyway, so there's little point in spending all that time converting to a Debian system that is already available for download.

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Posted: April 12 2006,18:28 QUOTE

I already have Debian-Sarge running on my main computer.  My point is not 'getting Debian' but finding out I can realize the claim made that DSL installs as Debian.

Besides, having a credit-card size distro in a wallet which can install Debian is something very convenient.  While I do not always have a Debian CD or DVD with me, I always have DSL.

So - how does one install DSL 'as Debian'?!

For example, after enabling apt I could download and isnstall a small utility which checks the amount of non-free software called vrms (-: for "virtual Richard Stallman" :-) but when I tried to apt-get install Abiword I got broken dependencies problems.  That would never happen with a real Debian.  DSL needs tweaking, but it should be doable.

Again - I realize that DSL != Debian and that by fully 'Debianizing' DSL a user would loose DSL-specific qualities.  But since the claim is made smack in the middle of the DSL homepage and since I like to learn how to do things I do not think that it is illegitimate to ask how this can be done.


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Posted: April 12 2006,20:57 QUOTE

I see your point.

As far as I know, once you install DSL to harddrive (non-frugal) you have a basic Debian-type system, at least in the sense that the file structure is essentially the same as that in Debian.  I don't know much about apt, so i can't give any definite info there, but I can say that your dependency issues don't mean that DSL can't be expanded into the equivalent of Debian. I've heard at least a few people say they've done it.  As far as I know, you might need to run some other apt commands to update the apt support files, and maybe to upgrade some of your base system files.  What those commands are specifically I forget, as I don't use apt. I'm only saying what I vaguely remember from reading other people's posts.  You will probably find more useful information in the apt-get forum.

opinion: It may be useful to know that installing DSL in this manner is probably not going to be well-supported by the devs or these forums.  The ability to do it was basically already available when DSL was created, so it was included in the install scripts just because it's a possibility.  However, most of the ongoing development focuses almost entirely on the compressed system of liveCD, frugal, embedded, etc.  As far as I understand it, if changes are made that are specific to the liveCD, but cause issues for a traditional install, I doubt that these issues will be on the top of the list of things to fix.


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