Experiences

Forum: User Feedback
Topic: Experiences
started by: Thulemanden

Posted by Thulemanden on June 09 2006,23:33

My experience is that DSL i very fast and has a good selection of applications except the following:

3 text editors
3 browsers (trash dillo) and the text only browser
Many games

This could save some space.
Nobody installs DSL to play games.

On my Danish and installed keyboard the at-sign in emails doesn't work. All other characters work.

It claims apt-get and synaptic is not installed. I did a default install. I don't even have an /etc/apt/sources.list There is no dpkg, no updatedb no (s)locate.

It's few quirks but important.

Posted by kerry on June 10 2006,00:03

3 texteditors serve diffirent purpose's beaver is for gui, but what if for some reason you can't get to gui, that's where nano comes in.

3 browsers, same thing here. If you have enough ram firefox is good, but if you have less dillo is the best choice. The other works if for non gui.

Games, i never use them too.

apt-get and synaptic you have to enable them in the right click menu, i think under system or apps.

Posted by Thulemanden on June 10 2006,00:15

Quote (kerry @ June 09 2006,20:03)

Thank you very much for the valuable info on apt-get and synaptic. :-)

Regarding duplicated app's, I believe the argument 'what if, and 'nice to have' is beyond the scope of a small linux.

If you don't want GUI there would be other Linux choices.

You could also say 'if FF didn't show a page right you could use Galeon' etc.

I just think DSL is not quite consequent here and sits between two chairs. :-(

Anyway, Thanks again for the surprisingly quick reply

Posted by kerry on June 10 2006,00:32

If your going to use apt-get you might not get a choice whether you have gui or not. You might install something that bones your gui and those apps can really help if you want to recover instead of reinstalling.

Galeon, is choke full of dependencies and relies on having mozilla installed.

Posted by Thulemanden on June 10 2006,01:13

Quote (kerry @ June 09 2006,20:32)

Thanks for the warning - Galeon was just an example - I didn't contemplate installing it. However Opera is another matter; the default Debian Woodydidn't work, but as I know Opera comes in different versions, I'll go into boot camp and try my way ahead.

I like the webserver and will use it. Just need to redirect my router to the PC IP.

What do you recommend regarding firewall application?

DSL is fun!

Hitting the sack - bye

Posted by kerry on June 10 2006,01:32

I can't reccommend one as i don't use software firewall. but the other's have been discussing rc.firewall.dsl which sounds good. Also don't go above sarge repos, you'll get to many problems and the synaptic in sarge repo is better. just enable apt than go to /etc/apt sources.list and uncomment the top one and change the it to sarge and add the stuff behind main(non-free..) then apt-get update and apt-get install synaptic. It will install and upgrade like 29+ apps including fluxbox, answer yes or y to everything.

Posted by Thulemanden on June 10 2006,09:54

Thanks; did it.

I am baffled over the apt and synaptic having to be enabled.

Know What was the ideology behind that?

Posted by pr0f3550r on June 10 2006,10:04

Quote (Thulemanden @ June 09 2006,20:15)

You could also say 'if FF didn't show a page right you could use Galeon' etc.

If you ask for an opinion and then somebody gives their opinion and then you don't like it and put words back into their mounth, that's rude, I think.

Posted by ZoOp on June 10 2006,14:21

Thulemanden,

in my post I have listed some apps which could maybe be remove/replace by extensions (a kind of follow up of a more past discussion about apps in DSL):

< http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....t=13757 >

I was very surprised not to find a lot of apps to remove, but only a few of them. So, I believe it speaks a lot for the way Robert and John have designed DSL, which is small and GUI enough without being less linux and CLI (if such an association would have some relevance).

yours
z

Posted by KerowynM on June 14 2006,23:39

I play games in DSL. Not like my hardcore max fps water vised maps stereo 3d glasses days, but its still something I toy with now and again. I didn't get WoW running on it tho, so I kinda gave up at installing the latest and greatests.. but I do play some of the games that come on the CD, Xtris and freecell. the rest could go and I'd never miss them. I toy with the games repository sometimes tho, got a bit of a thing for tuxracer now hehe

If I ever work out how package creation works I'd make a bunch of them, fill in some of the gaps (nethack, but no rogue,moria,angband,omega... etc) but I haven't quite figured out how it all works yet. I did manage to make a gforth.dsl with the deb2dsl script, but I haven't worked out how to do it the other ways yet.

Edit: I believe you must enable aptget due to space constraints. the dsl-dpkg.dsl is the "missing" part of apt-get. Under normal use you never need those files in DSL, so they can be removed from the image. if you want to go poke around in apt you need to get its data back.

Posted by ShadowSystems on June 29 2006,13:27

I haven't installed DSL yet, but am about to.

If it's as stable/strong/

as I hope, then I'll be installing it on my son's computer as well.

I'm getting tired of having to reformat the stupid thing because some game decided to delete an "unused" dll, like anyone needs kernal32.dll anyway? BAH! *groan*

I tried Ubuntu, but his system doesn't have the guts to run it properly, so if DSL works well on it, I'll see which games will run (decently) under it as well.

I won't mind if that crashes, 'cause I can re-image the entire system from a single CD-RW, but Windows never worked right from the back-up, which meant wasting a day Nuke & Paving.

Besides, he took one look at TuxRacer and refused to give me back the laptop for hours.
(Um, hello, can I finish INSTALLING the OS first?! GAH! hehehe)