A little lost.


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Topic: A little lost.
started by: ny2cali

Posted by Guest on Feb. 25 2007,19:03
Hi all...I am 5-6 hrs new to linux (this is my first distro)

So far dsl has been working great and I have successfully accessed both my external dvd-rw and 80 gb usb drive. I went from live cd to a direct hd install (didn't want to try frugal yet.)

Anyway I am completely lost when it comes to the commands for add-on programs.

I first tried to add gaim but when i tried to compile it I was told in the terminal screen i have no gcc compiler..(I don't know where I can get this or if it is already included in dsl and i haven't found it.

*then I found a gaim through myDSL but saw I needed gtk2. I downloaded gtk2-0705.unc from another website but i have no idea how to install this either. it is on my sys at cd /home/dsl gtk2-0705.unc

sorry for the long post..I know there is a learning curve but this is my biggest hurdle and any help would be appreciated.

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Feb. 25 2007,20:46
gtk2 is in mydsl as well

If you want to load it by command-line, you can use
mydsl-load gtk2-0705.unc

See < http://damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/index.php/MyDSL:_Installing_Extensions > (among other docs) for more info

Posted by Guest on Feb. 25 2007,23:32
Thanks...the links helped me out alot
Posted by lucky13 on Feb. 26 2007,04:38
Quote (ny2cali @ Feb. 25 2007,14:03)
Hi all...I am 5-6 hrs new to linux (this is my first distro)

So far dsl has been working great and I have successfully accessed both my external dvd-rw and 80 gb usb drive. I went from live cd to a direct hd install (didn't want to try frugal yet.)

Anyway I am completely lost when it comes to the commands for add-on programs.

Since you're using the traditional hard drive install, you should go ahead and enable apt and use apt-get (command line) or synaptic (GUI) add new programs from the debian pool. By default, you'll be set up for "old stable" repositories rather than the latest and greatest. I don't advise changing it because you're very likely to run into bigger, more serious issues.

There's a command in the menu (under tools) to enable apt in older versions of DSL (<3.2?). In more recent versions you'll need to download dsl-dpkg.unc from the DSL repository, etc.

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I first tried to add gaim but when i tried to compile...


DSL doesn't come with a C compiler, and you're going to have lots of dependencies to compile first if you want to go the route of downloading and compiling from source recent versions of GUI programs like that. An older GTK1 version of Gaim is available in Debian old stable pool, and you've already found the shiny happy GTK2 version in the DSL repository.

Posted by roberts on Feb. 26 2007,06:38
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There's a command in the menu (under tools) to enable apt in older versions of DSL (<3.2?). In more recent versions you'll need to download dsl-dpkg.unc from the DSL repository, etc.


The menu item in question has always been a download script for dsl-dpkg.dsl from the system repository, followed by the obligatory apt-get update

When oldstable was removed from the Debian mirrors, this script became broken and therefore removed starting with v3.2. It was much easier to  perform an adhoc change to the dsl-dpkg.dsl extension than to change the four images of DSL.

However, now that Debian has a permanent home for "Woody" the download script can once again be enabled as the download target is once again stable.

Look for this in v3.3RC2

Posted by Guest on Feb. 26 2007,17:47
Quote (roberts @ Feb. 26 2007,01:38)
However, now that Debian has a permanent home for "Woody" the download script can once again be enabled as the download target is once again stable.

Look for this in v3.3RC2

I am using 3.3RC1. I have looked around but have been unable to find a script that will enable apt-get successfully, can anyone provide me with a link or directions on how to enable apt-get after downloading dsl-dpkg.unc or .dsl on my hdd install?
Posted by roberts on Feb. 26 2007,18:29
For a traditional hard drive install, as user root navigate to your downloaded dsl-dpkg.dsl and run

# /etc/init.d/mydsl-install dsl-dpkg.dsl
# apt-get update



Posted by Guest on Feb. 26 2007,21:33
Quote (roberts @ Feb. 26 2007,13:29)
For a traditional hard drive install, as user root navigate to your downloaded dsl-dpkg.dsl and run

# mydsl-install dsl-dpkg.dsl
# apt-get update

I first tried as you suggested and got
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root@box:/tmp# mydsl-install dsl-dpkg.dsl
bash: mydsl-install command not found


Then I switched back to DSL and got
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dsl@box:/tmp$ mydsl-load dsl.dpkg.dsl
rm: unable to remove `tmp/noload': operation not permitted

I was able to get this but I'm not sure if I'm ready for debian packages
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root@box:/home/dsl# apt-get-update
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > woody main Packages
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > woody main Release
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > woody contrib Packages
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > woody contrib Release
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > wood/ non-free Packages
Hit < http://archive.debian.org > wood/ non-free Release
Reading Package Lists..Done

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but maybe I will have to reinstall a hdd installation?...I'm only working with a Pentium II 300 mhz 3.94GB

Posted by humpty on Feb. 27 2007,01:02
>.. I went from live cd to a direct hd install (didn't want to try frugal yet.)
usually it's the other way around. unless you have a good reason for a hd install. frugal is much cleaner and less hassle.

>.. I'm not sure if I'm ready for debian packages..
you're not.

Posted by Guest on Feb. 27 2007,17:00
I re-partitioned and re-installed DSL...followed the hdd instructions to a t and everything's working good w/ installing DSL programs...just need to learn my way in using the apps but the search function is coming in handy -..thanks again all.
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