0.8.1

Forum: User Feedback
Topic: 0.8.1
started by: clacker

Posted by clacker on Sep. 09 2004,18:21

I just downloaded 0.8.1 the same way that I have for the last three. I checked the md5sum, and then burned the CD to the same material I used before, but it didn't boot. I checked the md5 again and burned another coaster. All of the directories are on the CD when I check for them in windows. Has anyone else experienced this? Any ideas?

Posted by laughing_gas on Sep. 09 2004,18:23

Worked fine for me.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 09 2004,18:50

Hmm...
0.8.1 has been tested in pre-release versions since
the morning after the 0.8.0 release ....

Since then, I've had no issues on about 10 or so
different machines I've tested various installs on

I know that's NOT what you wanted to read ..

How are you "burning" them ?
When it didn't boot, did you see an error message ?
Did it just lockup, or did it continue to boot another OS ?

73
ke4nt

Posted by clacker on Sep. 09 2004,18:59

If you both say it's fine, it's fine. It must be me and I'll try downloading it again.

I checked the md5 with md5sum in dos. I looked at the whole sum and it matched. I burned to CD with Adaptec Easy CD Creater 4, the same way I always do with my fresh DSL downloads.

My system booted to Windows ME rather than DSL. DSL 0.8.0 still boots fine.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 09 2004,19:16

Well, I'd be suspicious if I were you ... very suspicious ...
I wouldn't take our word for it...
Try burning the old 0.8.0 with the same stuff..
See if that works..
Maybe changes have been made to your cd creator setup.
( are you burning multi-session ? )
( Did you install any 3rd party stuff, like udf drivers, etc? )

Boot up the good DSL 0.8.0 ,
and use cdrecord to burn a new cd from the verified .iso ..

Don't just blow it off, keep us informed of your progress.
You may have found a bug unique to your Hardware.

73
ke4nt

Posted by clacker on Sep. 09 2004,23:24

I tried burning dsl 0.8.0 with the same stuff. That worked fine and now I have a copy of dsl 0.8.0 to give a stranger if they happen to ask for one (and I have seen people looking longingly at my CD).

I checked the md5sum one more time in dsl 0.8.0 ( again I got 51d7c3971c67523559024fcd482f2f2f70, same as in the dsl-0.8.0.iso.md5.txt file)and burned a CD of the 0.8.1 iso with cdrecord. That also didn't work (dropped me right into Windows ME.

I'm on a Dell dimension 4100.

I don't know if this thread belongs in feedback or not, but I figured others might be having the same problem. Aparently not.

Posted by regsx on Sep. 10 2004,04:34

cd2iso will calculate the md5sum of a cd
if it's the same as the iso
then the cd was burned perfectly

if the md5sum is different, it might still be a good burn
but it probably would indicate the cd has write errors

< http://www.dubaron.com/cd2iso/ >

burncdcc can test the cd if you check the Read Verify box
all it does is burn iso's, so you can't burn
a data cd by mistake

< http://www.snapfiles.com/get/burncdcc.html >

Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 10 2004,04:44

Have you tried your 0.8.1 disk in another computer, just to make sure
the media didn't have a flaw?

73
ke4nt

Posted by clacker on Sep. 10 2004,12:12

I have no other computer to try it in.

I downloaded 0.8.1.1 and the same thing happened: I booted right into Windows Me. The md5sum of the iso file was right on. The funny thing is 0.8.0 works fine, even the burn I made in the middle of those other burns.

I want to check the md5 of the disks I've been burning, I think that's a good idea. Rather than using my burning software, though, I wanted to use DSL. When I tried:

dd /dev/cdrom1 of=test.iso

I got the error "dd: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error" This happened even if I used a known good disk. Mounting the drive and trying to use /mnt/cdrom said "/mnt/cdrom is a directory." Is there a correct way to create an iso image from the cd so I can check it?

Posted by beakmyn on Sep. 10 2004,12:32

Yes, the new USB script doesn't run as root and fails to format the USB pendrive. Up until that point it ran fine.

Posted by clacker on Sep. 10 2004,13:34

regsx, I used Windows Me to run cd2iso on the CD for 0.8.0 (which I know works) but it gave me the error message "Something went wrong"

Posted by beakmyn on Sep. 10 2004,17:19

I downloaded .81 this morning and used EZ CD creator 5.3.421 sp28. I burned at 4x to a CDRW it burned and booted fine for me. I then installed it to a USB drive which worked fine also.
This is on a Dell D800

Posted by clacker on Sep. 11 2004,00:01

If it works for all of you, then the problem is obviously on my end. I burned another cd-rw of 0.8.1.1 using dsl 0.8.0 (after checking the md5 again), same problem.

I can tell that the CD wants to start. It does pause and look at the CD, but I never get to the boot: prompt.

I rechecked the md5sum of the iso and it was correct. I mounted the iso file with mount -o loop dsl-0.8.1.1.iso /mnt/hda1 and compared the md5 of every file in the boot directory to the one on the CD and they matched.

When I looked at the 0.8.0 & 0.8.1.1 CDs I saw that the both had the same directory structure. I ran an md5 for all of the files in the /boot/isolinux directory and only saw three diffrences between them: boot.cat, isolinux.bin, and minirt.gz. We can exclude minirt.gz as a suspect because it only gets loaded after the boot. That leaves isolinux.bin and boot.cat.

I tried to mount isolinux.bin using

mount -o loop isolinux.bin /mnt/hda1

but it said it couldn't guess the file system type. I tried ext2 but that didn't work.

I really like dsl, and I want to make this work. The way I see it, I need to check two things:

1) is boot.cat correct (is there a reason why it would it change???)

2) is isolinux.bin refusing to boot for a hardware reason but not diplaying a message.

Any help would be, well, helpfull.

Posted by Ken Simons on Sep. 11 2004,02:41

I've had similar problems with 0.81 writing to disk but not booting on any of my three machines. 0.80 did burn (and boot) nicely for me just two days earlier.

I assumed it was a defect in my software (Iomage HotBurn running on Win98SE) or my hardware (Iomega Predator USB 2.0), and occurred both on CDRW and CDR media, and at different recording speeds. It looks like this may bear some more investigation...

At least I was able to start the disk with a boot floppy and install 0.81 to my harddrive.

Posted by Modrak on Sep. 13 2004,18:17

OK guys...since 0.8.1 we have non-emulative booting
That means that the CD doesn't look like floppy to BIOS but like normal boot drive and some older hardware can't handle that

Maybe the kernel and stuff like that didn't fit into 1.44Mb (2.88Mb) of floppy emulated booting
Anyway...ask Jonh