changes in 0.5.3.1?
Forum: User Feedback
Topic: changes in 0.5.3.1?
started by: libretto
Posted by libretto on Jan. 28 2004,02:09
I finally got DSL 0.5.3.1 loaded onto the laptop (overwriting 0.4.8)Tried booting with FDD (pcmcia card not detected by kernel)
Tried putting hdd onto M10000 MB, the floppy disk boot didnt work either.
Finally put Hdd in an already established machine and its now loaded.
Ive noticed a few changes which means the laptop isnt behaving as expected. For example upon boot it loads straight into a terminal and does not load an X server (all my other main machines load it as default). Was there a change in code for this?
How do i stop the sshd, web monkey and nfs daemon servers from being loaded at boot?
I hope the small tweaks will be overcome and I'll have nice little Linux system again. Can't wait to try the printer and smaba client functions ;)
Posted by mage492 on Jan. 28 2004,06:20
I wasn't aware that sshd started at boot? At least, I couldn't find it when I ran "top". I didn't check for Web Monkey, but I would assume it would be the same?Are you seeing boot messages that say they're starting? I might just be overlooking them... (With my current monitor, which is about to bite the dust, I have some trouble seeing the boot messages...)
Posted by libretto on Jan. 28 2004,12:18
Well the previous version of DSL on the latop allowed me to login into the laptop via ssh with out enabling any servers. So I assume that the ssh servers are enabled by default.
Posted by John on Jan. 28 2004,15:46
Some time back, 0.4.9 maybe, we made ssh not start up automatically for safety reasons and to make DSL use less ram. There is now a 'Daemons' menu, so that they can be optionally started. If you want ssh, httpd and NFS started automatically you can put a simple script in /etc/rc5.d/. RobertS posted somewhere how to modify the later releases so that they boot into X automatically, the switches were made to make DSL a more secure HD install.
Posted by libretto on Jan. 29 2004,11:23
OK cheers John.
Posted by libretto on Jan. 30 2004,00:25
Ive have noticed a few more things:Got smbclient to connect to my main windows machine very useful (not tried Liniux -> Linux link yet):cool:
Is there a way to stop the MOTD coming up (in Dillo), as the laptop has a small screen and its getting annoying having to move the windows everytime! This also now aplies to starting Dillo normally and Glinks. Is there a way to resize them on load?
Also, got the ssh server to work on the laptop, but it does not behave as I expected!
On the laptop in X, logged in as root@IP via my main machine, and the terminal started to run an x server or soemthng? The laptop appeared to reboot in X and the prompt on the main machine did not go to a propmt as was in 0.4.8. Does this mean if I want to use ssh the host machine has to be out of X?
(this doesn't seem right)Sorry if it doesn't make much sense, I'm trying to get my head round all these new bits. Otherwise thanks for you patience and assistance.
Posted by roberts on Jan. 30 2004,01:20
dillo MTOD is in the standard place. Edit .xinitrc to comment out or add your favorite X programs to start. As for the ssh server, it is usually used to scp for file transfer. If you want to login and use the command prompt you will have to disable startx. Edit the usual place(s), i.e., .bash_profile. If you want our system to boot to CLI then edit the appropriate .bash_profile and then save your changes with filetool.sh and backup and restore.
Posted by John on Jan. 30 2004,15:57
Libretto, I see what you mean. Like Robert said, you can edit root's .bash_profile and take out startx command. We'll figure out a way to make .bash_profile somewhat smarter somewhere down the road -- maybe look for the env variable SSH_CLIENT and not startx if it's there.
Posted by libretto on Jan. 30 2004,17:57
Right, cheers for the info. I'm still trying to get my head round all the config files. Its just the SSH system being different to 0.4.8 which has thrown me a bit.
Posted by Krezip on Feb. 09 2004,16:45
I was used to hit <CTRL>+<ALT>+<Backspace> to get me a terminal from within X. Version 5 doesn't seem to have Virtual terminals anymore... How can I enable them?
Something about 'bash_profile' but I don't have that file anywhere...
Who can help me into a Virtual Terminal?
Posted by Krezip on Feb. 12 2004,11:30
Virtual Terminal Verdict :/home/damnsmall/.bash_profile
/home/damnsmall/.bashrc
/etc/bashrc
I deleted all .* files in the /home/damnsmall , ever since I lost my virtual terminals.
The real responsible is bashrc in /etc dir! There you see that V-terminals are created. But you have to call it the profile with .bash_profile, which calls .bashrc, who calls /etc/bashrc!
There is nog startx whatsoever in .bash_profile still when the pc boots F2 = X , F1 = X output. After an X-kill (ctrl+alt+Bkspc), you get your 4 terminals as defined in inittab.
Relauncing startx, puts the X on F5 , while you have yer 4 Virtual Terminals.
Krezip.