Installing opera on DSL

Forum: Other Help Topics
Topic: Installing opera on DSL
started by: blae

Posted by blae on Nov. 13 2006,00:54

Does anyone know if you can install Opera web browser on DSL? And how you do this?

I need to run a web link in full scren mode and Opera seems to be a good app for this.

Thanks.

Posted by sankarv on Nov. 13 2006,04:23

it is there in mydsl repository.

Im giving the link. Just click to download.

< DOWNLOAD OPERA >

You can find several others apps by browsing through this MyDsl repository.

< MYDSL REPOSITORY >

See the documentation section in
< DOCUMENTATION >

on installing mydsl applications.

Posted by blae on Nov. 13 2006,05:19

That's great, thanks!

Posted by Key on Jan. 05 2007,19:32

Unfortunately, there is no actual version of Opera available as module for DSL.

Why?
Is it difficult and complex to make such a module for DSL?

Is there an easy instruction how to do it?

With the MyDSL application, I have found Opera 9.00 and 8.52.
Trying first this Opera 9.00 module alone, I have got a window opened without fonts.
Then, with the Opera 8.52 module additionaly downloaded, I have got Opera 9.00 working with fonts in the window.

Strange!
It seems like this Opera 9.00 module isn't complete?
In order to have the newest available Opera module installed, I need the older Opera 8.52 as well for the fonts

I wish there would be an actual and complete Opera module available for DSL.

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Jan. 05 2007,23:35

Key, you can just use one of the 8.x modules on its own.

The 9.x module's .info will show that you will need to use the other version of that uci or load another extension for prefs.
If you prefer just to have a simple fix, add /etc/opera6rc to your backup.tar.gz - reason why it wasn't included was that it breaks the uci standard (although the 8.x modules do it anyway).

Posted by Key on Jan. 06 2007,08:40

Ah, I see. Thank you for this information.
I didn't check the module's info.

Therefore, for the time being, I will have both versions ( 8.52 and 9.00 ) on my drive.

Version 9.10 is already available with further improvements.
With this version, I would like to try adding "/etc/opera6rc" to "backup.tar.gz" then. Unfortunately, this new version (9.10) isn't available yet in the MyDSL application.

On the Opera side, I saw that you can choose the download for severall distributions and vendors. Unfortunately, DSL is not listed there. What is the best and easiest way to get an actual version?
- Wait till somebody has made a special DSL module? But this could take longer time as seen in the past.
- Downloading a "module" for another distribution, which is usable in an easy way as well? But with which disadvantages? I do not have much experiences / knowledge with Unix / Linux yet. Is it very complex to install? Which "module" for which distribution would be the best in this case?

Thanks again in advance.

Posted by roberts on Jan. 06 2007,14:53

Three things:

1. The easy fix for old(er) Opera versions huge opening screen and no fonts.
Edit /etc/opera6rc and add the following line just under [User Prefs]

Enable Xft Fonts=0

2. I have made Opera 9.10 into a dsl extensions and am using it at the momemnt. I will post it later today.

3. If you cannot wait, then you can install Opera 9.10 all within /home/dsl by downloading from the Opera site, first scroll through the list for static version and second select tar.gz as the format. If you tar extract and run install.sh as user dsl then it will install in /home/dsl Don't forget to take care of font issue as above.

Posted by Key on Jan. 06 2007,15:32

Quote (roberts @ Jan. 06 2007,09:53)

2. I have made Opera 9.10 into a dsl extensions and am using it at the momemnt. I will post it later today.

Thank you very much, Roberts!

With this, DSL will almost be perfect for me!

I'm happy now.

Posted by roberts on Jan. 06 2007,19:25

opera910.unc is now posted in the UNC section of the repository.

Posted by Key on Jan. 07 2007,07:30

Quote (roberts @ Jan. 06 2007,14:25)

opera910.unc is now posted in the UNC section of the repository.

Works great!

Thanks again

Posted by HandySolo on Jan. 21 2007,18:47

Quote (roberts @ Jan. 06 2007,14:25)

opera910.unc is now posted in the UNC section of the repository.

Running DSL 3.2, frugal install on my hard drive (hda2).
I'll preface by saying I'm new to DSL -- and loving it so far.

I've installed opera 8.52 from myDSL - Net.
When I try to install opera910.unc from myDSL - UNC, nothing seems to happen.

Code Sample

find -name opera -type d

only turns up the /opt/opera852 stuff.

Am I skipping a step? Is there a log somewhere that I should check for errors?

Confusedly,
Handy

Posted by roberts on Jan. 21 2007,21:50

I would not try loading both vesions of Opera.
The unc version should produce an opera icon just as the prior version.

You need to be using unionfs for unc to be enabled.

You can check this easy with the command

listu

Posted by HandySolo on Jan. 22 2007,04:07

Ah ha. unionfs, huh?

listu returns no output, so ... is unionfs a different filesystem? A start over kind of deal (which is fine, I've barely had it installed 24 hours).

Thanks for the clarification on the opera thing, now I just need to understand unionfs. :-)

Posted by sheldonisaac on Jan. 22 2007,13:22

I'm using DSL 3.2, frugal from /dev/hda3, backup device is hdb2

Downloaded an extension for the first time ever, opera910.unc

Was glad to see it worked, but not that it disappeared after a reboot?

Downloaded again, saved it in /dev/hda4/mydsl/

Now it works OK. (does /dev/hda4 need to be mounted?) but I want to make a change (remove Widgets from the Opera menu).
Apparently that's in a file something like
ramdisk/opera910/usr/share/opera/standard_menu.ini ??
(Sorry, I can't look at that now, am in MS-Windows)

When I try to edit the ini file, I'm told it's a read-only file system.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Sheldon

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Jan. 22 2007,14:25

I think it may be that unc's are mounted read-only - so you should utilize user-specific configs or other system-wide settings for opera, or repackage the extension to your liking.

Posted by sheldonisaac on Jan. 22 2007,15:10

I think it may be that unc's are mounted read-only - so you should utilize user-specific configs or other system-wide settings for opera, or repackage the extension to your liking.
=======================

I'm sorry, I don't yet know about those things.

Will someone please tell me how?

Posted by roberts on Jan. 22 2007,17:00

I would think that a well behaved application will store user specific settings in .opera in the respective home directories. A typical user would not have to change or even have access to system wide settings.

However, two approaches exist to accomplish this.
1. Repackage the unc, it has been posted already use Search
2. Add the specific changed file(s) to the backup using full path minus the first /

Posted by roberts on Jan. 22 2007,17:03

HandySolo, The default for DSL v3.2 is unionfs.
Perhaps your frugal install has the boot option legacy ?
Using legacy boot option turns off unionfs.

Posted by HandySolo on Jan. 22 2007,17:17

hi Roberts, thanks for the replies.

In looking back at the wiki, I did the < Hard Disk Install > as opposed to the < Frugal Install >.

Is there a difference? I've not really found much on the frugal install to understand if it is the same as what I did or not.

By following the HD install, I created two partitions, one swap and one Linux type 83. Perhaps I should've created a third of type unionfs?

Posted by roberts on Jan. 22 2007,17:27

Unionfs is not really meant for traditional hard drive installations.

Frugal installations have severely limited write areas, as it is an emulation of running from cdrom. Unionfs for frugal provides a writeable overlay providing much the same write access as doing a traditional hard drive install.

Since you have a traditional hard drive installation, I would think that a normal installation from Opera's site would work.

Typically, I do not promote traditional hard installations, because so often things get screwed up.

With frugal type, you always have a pristine know state of the machine, on which you load into ramdisk to achive similar results as a traditional hard drive installation.

Posted by HandySolo on Jan. 22 2007,18:18

Ah ha. So, loosely translated, by farting around with the UNC stuff I'm just making life hard for myself.

For some reason, I had it my head that even though I was a hard drive install, I should stick with the MyDSL stuff for everything I added.

As I don't really want to add much beyond Opera, I'll just go manually install it.

Thanks for your help!

Posted by sheldonisaac on Jan. 23 2007,16:36

Robert had said:
"I would think that a well behaved application will store user specific settings in .opera in the respective home directories. A typical user would not have to change or even have access to system wide settings."
~~~~~~~~~~

The file
/ramdisk/opt/opera910/usr/share/opera/ini/standard_menu.ini
is in a read-only filesystem

However, /home/dsl/.opera/opera6.ini can be edited and saved, and the relevant part of it now says:

Menu Configuration=/home/dsl/.opera/mymenu.ini

(It used to say
Menu Configuration=/ramdisk/opt/opera910/usr/share/opera/ini/standard_menu.ini )

mymenu.ini is a copy of
/ramdisk/opt/opera910/usr/share/opera/ini/standard_menu.ini,
and has just the small change I wanted, commenting out the line as below:

;Submenu, -235137047, Browser Widgets Menu

Posted by roberts on Jan. 23 2007,16:51

Quote

The file
/ramdisk/opt/opera910/usr/share/opera/ini/standard_menu.ini
is in a read-only filesystem

True, but because we are talking about a unc and not a uci, the
file /usr/share/opera/ini/standard_menu.ini is available to be edited by root and then therefore be added to the filetool.lst for backup and restore.

Posted by delaguer on Jan. 25 2007,03:25

Quote (roberts @ Jan. 06 2007,09:53)

Hello there,

I couldn't find Opera 910.unc so what I did is I downloaded Opera from the website and installed it myself.

I followed Robert's suggestion regarding the font issue and it works great.

I also copy paste flashplugin from Firefox to Opera, and it works; the problem now is that I have no sound when let say, watching a video on youtube, while everything works great in Firefox.

I research the forums but I didn't find anything, any ideas??

Thanks

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Jan. 25 2007,05:02

For the unc, see the UNC section

Are you using alsa ? And which flash version?