ies4linux, internet explorer, dsl-dpkg, cabextract


Forum: Other Help Topics
Topic: ies4linux, internet explorer, dsl-dpkg, cabextract
started by: bwh1969

Posted by bwh1969 on June 23 2007,15:06
This is an odd mix of issues to therefore I am posting here.

I would like to install ies4linux
< http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page >

The reason for my doing this is that a few sites require Internet Explorer 6 or higher or I can't even log in. It works great in all of the ubuntu versions.

The ies4linux installer calls for cabextract so I did the following:
I have dsl-dpkg enabled, I did:
apt-get update.  
apt-get install cabextract

All went well.  

When I do a ./ies4linux in the directory for the installer, it still calls for cabextract.  Perhaps a more recent version is needed.

There are different directions for "debian" and I tried those by adding a more recent repository to my apt sources list, but there are dependency issues and I can't seem to work around them.

Posted by lucky13 on June 23 2007,15:18
Which dependencies are unmet? DSL is friendly-ish through Debian Woody. Beyond that, you're going to have headaches and frustration.
Posted by bwh1969 on June 23 2007,15:59
Based on the debian instructions, I need to install It want's to install libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 cabextract, but it wants newer versions of dependencies for first two things that are already installed, so I don't think I am going to be able to install this based on your question.

Thanks for your help though.  Some people sometimes have found "easy" ways of doing things but I don't think this issue is one of those easy things.  I have tried a "raw" install of ie6 using wine, but it just can't do it.

Synaptic would be nice... or even aptitude.  Those frontends sometimes help out with such things.

Posted by lucky13 on June 23 2007,16:06
Which version of DSL are you using? Has synaptic been deprecated in recent versions?
Posted by bwh1969 on June 23 2007,16:35
I am using 3.3.  I thought I had remember seeing "synaptic" somewhere on some previous version, or as an installable app, but I can't seem to find it.  

I don't use dsl a lot.  I have a multiboot with grub: kubuntu feisty, win xp, dsl as options.  I use it on the weekends when I don't want my desktop running the hard drive (kubuntu doesn't suspend properly and every half minute or so, I see the hd light go on, even with manual hdparm settings), and don't want to use windows XP (why? - just because :;):   The toram hard drive install of DSL just hangs out in ram and uses energy minimally.  My CPU never seems to get warm: a good indicator of low power consumption.  And it just just really fast on my athalon XP 3200+ with 2 GB ram.

So if I want to use internet explorer, I can just reboot to some other os.  Sometimes I think I just do these things for the sake of solving a puzzle.  

Know anyone who has IE6 successfully running on DSL with wine?

Posted by lucky13 on June 23 2007,16:49
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kubuntu doesn't suspend properly

I used to use kubuntu, but on a much less-endowed laptop than you just described (try 800 mhz, 256MB RAM); I had no trouble with it. I could give you a checklist of things like making sure your swap>RAM (yes, that will help), properly configuring ACPI (ACPI_SLEEP=true in /etc/default/acpi-support), etc...

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Know anyone who has IE6 successfully running on DSL with wine?

Sorry. I don't run WINE, I've never used IE. I also blacklist sites that don't work under Seamonkey or Firefox (or one of my peeves, that are entirely or mostly Flash-based). Which sites are giving you trouble, and have you contacted the webmasters?

Posted by bwh1969 on June 23 2007,17:03
I agree... however one of my online financial institutions, Wells fargo, requires IE.  Kind of stupid.

Also, I am a science teacher, and some of the interactive tools I use for my kids uses Shockwave and I like to experiment with those at home before I have the kids do it.  I can Shockwave to work in Kubuntu feisty running Firefox 2.0.0.4 windows version with wine.  I can't seem to accomplish that under DSL.  The version of wine is too old and the fonts don't show up, although the windows version does run quite well otherwise.  I was hoping IE might do it.  

Not a biggie.  Thanks for your help and quick replies.

Posted by bwh1969 on June 23 2007,17:08
P.S.  help with kubuntu suspending to ram would be grand.  Actually, it suspends fine, but when awaking, the screen just flickers and I never get the login screen back.  On my laptop, this works fine with kubuntu-edgy.  My desktop never suspended in dapper/edgy/feisty.

Any checklist would be very much appreciated, even though this isn't the proper forum for that.

Posted by stupid_idiot on June 25 2007,12:39
Hello! ie6 is running successfully.
The following is on a clean boot (no restore whatsoever) from livecd.

1. wget
< http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub....ngl.dsl >
2. mydsl-load wine-0.9.28_with_opengl.dsl
3. wget < http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/downloads/ies4linux-2.0.5.tar.gz >
4. tar xzf ies4linux-2.0.5.tar.gz
5. ./ies4linux/ies4linux
6. "You need to install cabextract first! Download it here: < http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php" >
7. I load self-compiled cabextract from my hard disk partition:
mydsl-load /mnt/hdaX/cabextract.tar.gz (-> /opt/bin/cabextract)
8. ./ies4linux/ies4linux
9. "You need to install 'wget' first!"
10. I load self-compiled wget: mydsl-load /mnt/hdaX/wget.dsl
(-> /usr/bin/wget.dsl)
11. ./ies4linux/ies4linux
12. "You need to install 'unzip' first!"
13. I load self-compiled unzip: mydsl-load /mnt/hdaX/unzip.dsl
(-> /usr/bin/unzip)
14. ./ies4linux/ies4linux - Success, installation starts.
Afterwards (screenshot):
< http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1216/622030614_b4e2f84451_o.gif >

(Just personally) I prefer compiling utilities separately rather than struggling with package dependencies.  

To make cabextract:
wget < http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/downloads/cabextract-1.2.tar.gz >
tar xzf cabextract-1.2.tar.gz
cd cabextract-1.2
./configure
make
strip cabextract
Then copy cabextract into some bin directory. I used /opt/bin.
cp cabextract /opt/bin

To make wget:
wget < http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/wget/wget-1.10.2.tar.gz >
tar xzf wget-1.10.2.tar.gz
cd wget-1.10.2
If you want openssl support for wget (seldom needed, but in case you want it), you need

< http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub....des.dsl >
and
< ]http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub.... >

./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --disable-debug --disable-nls --disable-rpath
make
strip src/wget
cp src/wget /usr/bin (wget is a common utility and this is the usual location, so I put it here)

To make unzip:
wget < http://downloads.sourceforge.net/infozip/unzip552.tar.gz >
tar xzf unzip552.tar.gz
cd unzip-5.52
unzip doesn't have autoconfiguration.
Instead, you must use one of the makefiles provided.
linux users can use 'unix/Makefile'.
make -f ./unix/Makefile linux
cp unzip /usr/bin
strip unzip
cp unzip /usr/bin (this is usual location)

You can keep cabextract, wget, unzip tarred up on hard disk for later uses.
You can do:
e.g.
tar zcvf wget.dsl --numeric-owner /usr/bin/wget
(./wget.dsl is created.)
To load it you can just do:
mydsl-load /mnt/hdaX/wget.dsl

Posted by bwh1969 on June 27 2007,22:01
Hmmm... when I went to ./configure the cabextract, I got an error saying "no acceptable C complier found in $PATH" so I could not proceed to "make"  Do I need to have a DSL app installed.  I went to synaptic to see if "build-essential" was installed, and it is.  

I am using the latest DSL build.

Posted by lucky13 on June 27 2007,23:23
Have you installed the gcc (gnu c compiler) extension?
Posted by bwh1969 on June 28 2007,11:59
Ahhh, I figured something was not 'installed.'  I'll give that a try:-)
Posted by bwh1969 on June 28 2007,18:54
I got WARNING: unknown locale setting; no translations available.

Curious.

Posted by curaga on June 28 2007,19:59
DSL includes no locales. Do you boot with a lang=something boot code?
If you don't, LC_ALL will be C and errors like that shouldn't appear..

Posted by bwh1969 on June 28 2007,21:09
Oddly, not that I am aware.  Here is my grub boot menu item:

I use XFree86, but looked for a lang= something there.  Nothing.  ideas?

title D S L  
root (hd0,5)
kernel /boot/linux24 root=/dev/hda7 vga=791 alsa acpi=force apm=off scsi frugal noapm dma toram quiet mydsl=hda6/mydsl restore=hda6
initrd /boot/minirt24.gz
savedefault
boot

Posted by bwh1969 on June 28 2007,21:20
I got annoyed... so on a hunch, I just copied my .ies4linux out of my kubuntu 7.04 install, opened the bin file ie6 and changed any reference to my kubuntu user name to "dsl".  Runs like a charm:-)  Using wine 0.9.22 b/c for some reason, 0.9.28 just won't run anything.
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