copying NTFS files to an USB CDRW


Forum: Other Help Topics
Topic: copying NTFS files to an USB CDRW
started by: sowboy

Posted by sowboy on Jan. 02 2005,09:47
Hi All,

I have a computer with Win2000, NTFS format.  I would like to burn data from this computer to an USB CDRW

More details:
1. All data in NTFS format which crashed (cannot access win2k)
2. The data is there, I can read them from dos using NTFSDOS, however it is hard to find CD-burner sofware for dos.
3. I can boot from 1.44MB diskdrive, but not from IDE CD-ROM
(dont have password to change the boot order and too hard to find which jumper to reset the bios, an old notebook)
4. I have an external USB CD-burner.

In summary:
input: NTFS files in a harddisk
output: ISO9660, USB CDRW
other device: 1.44 FD (bootable)
                  CD-ROM (not bootable)

Question:
How to boot from floppy disk and have the rest of DSL in CD-ROM to perform the task (copying NTFS files to USB CDRW) using DSL?

1. How to make the boot disk?
2. What should be in boot disk and what should be in the CD?
3. How to mount the harddisk in NTFS (is it automatically mounted?)
4. How to mount the CD-ROM and the USB CD writer (is it automaticall mounted?)
5. Is the cd-burner tool, to convert files to ISO9960 and to record it to CDRW (LiteON CDRW) included in the distribution?

Apologize for a very long question, any advise would be very much appreciated.

thank you

andrew

Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 02 2005,16:24
"1. How to make the boot disk?"
There should be a floppy image available to download from the same directory as the DSL ISO image.  Depending on what system you're currently using, the creation is different.  On Windows you can use a program called rawwrite.  On Linux: "dd if=floppy.img of=/dev/fd0"
"2. What should be in boot disk and what should be in the CD?"
Ummm...the boot disk is made from the floppy img, and CD is made from the ISO...unless I misunderstand the question.
"3. How to mount the harddisk in NTFS (is it automatically mounted?)"
It's not automatically mounted, but it should be automatically detected and added to /etc/fstab, which means all you need to do is type "mount /dev/hdX#" (X=letter #=number, e.g. hda2).  Or select the drive with mount.app and press the mount button.
"4. How to mount the CD-ROM and the USB CD writer (is it automaticall mounted?)"
Same as mounting the harddrives, only with different device names.  CDROMs are probably /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrom1, etc.  USB CD is...ummm...I'm not sure...need to look up that one.
"5. Is the cd-burner tool, to convert files to ISO9960 and to record it to CDRW (LiteON CDRW) included in the distribution?"
I think cdrecord is included (text-based).  There is also a gcombust MyDSL extension you can download.

Posted by sowboy on Jan. 02 2005,19:04
Thanks for your quick response.  Yes, you clarifed most of my questions.  I should clarify my question #2 about a boot disk and a liveCD.

I have only a bootable diskdrive, CD-rom, readonly NTFS and USB CDRW. So I plan to put [#2] in a 1.44 floppy and [#3] in a CD. Then, boot DSL using the 1.44 floppy and access the rest of DSL software from the CD.  [#2] and [#3] are from [#1], Please confirm, is this the right way?


The goal is to copy NTFS files from a hardisk to USB CDRW.

I understand that I need to mount manually:
- NTFS harddisk
- IDE CD-ROM
- USB CD-RW

Question:  do I need to use "chroot" after mount IDE CD-ROM?

Thank you
---------------------------------------------------------
[#1] < http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/damnsmalllinux/current/ >
[#2] current                        21-Dec-2004 06:39  50.0M  
[#3] boot-0.8.0.img                 06-Nov-2004 23:06   1.4M

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Jan. 02 2005,21:05
Type in "dsl toram" at boot, so that it will free up your cdrom.

Then you can use cdrecord to copy files to the cd burner.

Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 02 2005,21:20
I think I was wrong about the auto-detection of an NTFS partition.  I assumed DSL has read-only support, but after checking it out it seems like it may not.  At least I don't see my windows2000 partition (hda2) in fstab....unless it's just "hd"
Posted by noclobber on Jan. 03 2005,02:49
Have you tried repairing your Win2k partition to make it bootable again?  If not, I may be able to give you a quick HowTo.
Posted by cbagger01 on Jan. 03 2005,17:59
DSL supports read-only access to an NTFS hard drive partition.

It should be fairly straightforward to boot up DSL with a boot floppy and a CD-R livecd disk in your CDROM drive.  You will need a program like rawrite32.exe in order to create the boot floppy disk and you will need a program like Nero to burn the ISO to a CD-R disk.

Once booted, it should be pretty easy to get at the hard drive.  You can either mount the drive using the mount.app tool in the lower right corner of the desktop by scrolling to "hda1" or "hda2" or whatever name is your NTFS partition and then pressing the button.  The green light should appear and then you will be mounted.

Also you can open up the Emelfm file manager and navigate to the /mnt directory.  Then Right-Click on the appropriate subdirectory (for example hda2) and then choose "Mount" from the context menu and your files will appear.


Most USB CD-RW drives are supported by DSL if they follow the USB Mass Storage Device standard.  If they drive can be connected to a Windows 2000 or Windows XP or Mac computer without the need to install special drivers then it is probably a "Mass Storage Compliant" device and will be automatically supported in linux.

Check your model here at this website to learn more about USB support:

< http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ >


Now to burn CD-R disks, you can use the built-in "bashburn" program, or you can use the gcombust.dsl or the k3b.dsl extensions in the mydsl repository.

< http://www.ibiblio.org/pub....ust.dsl >

< http://www.ibiblio.org/pub....k3b.dsl >

K3B is the nicest but is a huge download file.  The gcombust.dsl extension is very small and should fit on a floppy disk if needed.  I find gcombust to be easier to use than the bashburn software but is still not a once-click setup.

Good Luck.

Posted by sowboy on Jan. 04 2005,02:40
thank you, I will try that.
Posted by AwPhuch on Jan. 04 2005,20:04
I use DSL to recover data on computers when I am going to rebuild the system...on fat32 os's its simple...just use samba/linneighborhood.dsl mount my network data server share and using emelfm (filemanager) i offload all critical data before doing a harddrive (0's wipe)...it hasnt failed me once!!

Brian
AwPhuch

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