A little off topic but...

Forum: Other Help Topics
Topic: A little off topic but...
started by: yib

Posted by yib on Oct. 13 2005,07:07

Hi everyone, this might be a bit off topic, but I didnt really know where else to stick it.

So I've noticed a couple of things:
1) there are alot of nice livecd distros out there; DSL being one of them, and the one I use the most, ELIVE being another one that I like, mostly because of eye candy.
2) Most livecds don't do well when installed to the HD. (ethernet card not picked up, sound doesn't work, Xfree messes up.. etc).

So I was wondering about a couple of things as well:
1) Why is this? (I'm a linux newbie, so MY common sense tells me that if it works off a cd it should work off the hd too.)
2) Can something like a frugal install be used to put the cd image onto a partition on the HD and have a boot loader boot off it. I don't mean having the nice persistent /home and things, just want to be able to load what was on the CD from the HD, it being alot faster and all.

appreciate any input you guys might have.

Yib

Posted by hs7sv on Oct. 13 2005,08:48

Frugal Install works very well. No worry.

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 13 2005,12:36

Re: (2) This is exactly what a frugal install is. If you don't want all the fancy tricks like persistant /home and /opt, then do not tell the installer a place to look for /home and /opt.

Enjoy~

-J.P.

Posted by yib on Oct. 14 2005,06:28

let me clarify:

I know frugal works well for DSL, what I meant was, would it be possible to do something like a frugal for other livecd's in general. Example: can I take the elive cd image, stick it in a partition, and have the bootloader run from that image? Of course, there would be no mydsl extentions, persistent /home and things like that, but would it be possible to boot from the cd image from the HD?

yib

Posted by cbagger01 on Oct. 14 2005,17:27

If the livecd is based on KNOPPIX, it should be possible.

KNOPPIX supports a similar method called a Poorman's install. So KNOPPIX derivatives should also support this.

It gets more complicated if your hard drive partition is not a Linux format or a FAT/FAT32 (DOS/Win95/Win98/ME) format.

NTFS (WinNT/2000/XP/2003) usually requires a special poorman's install where your boot directly from the *.iso image, because cloop is supported for ISO filesystem but not NTFS filesystem. This is managed using the KNOPPIX cheatcode "bootfrom="

Posted by yib on Oct. 16 2005,05:48

The one I was thinking of is based on morphix. Its still ver 0.3 so it's got alot of problems. HOWEVER, when it's running off the CD everything works fine. So I was thinking if I could stick the image in a hd partition and boot from that...

Posted by cbagger01 on Oct. 16 2005,14:23

Morphix is based on KNOPPIX, so I would expect that it is possible to do a "KNOPPIX poorman's install" for your livecd