Lightweight Browser with Javascript and Cookies


Forum: Apps
Topic: Lightweight Browser with Javascript and Cookies
started by: talraven

Posted by talraven on June 16 2006,21:57
Hi all, I'm new to DSL, and I'm loving it.  
So far I've used the forums to get DSL installed on my ancient laptop, and get wireless working.

My specs:
IBM Thinkpad 365X
P100 (Pentium Mobile 75-200)
40MB RAM
4GB Hard Drive
AC Sound

Dillo is a slick little browser, but doesn't have the Javascript and cookie support needed for most Web mail.  Firefox works, but brings the system to its knees.  I've tried BroseX, but it didn't have the right support either. Any suggestions on a browser that's somewhere between Dillo and Firefox, but has good Javascript and cookie support?

Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,02:06
Not really those are pretty much the 2 best browsers. Have you tried opera? Also are you using a swap partion for extra memory, it really makes a big difference.
Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,02:26
Thanks for the reply Kerry.  I am using a swap partition, but it doesn't seem to be utilized very much -- and when it does iget used, it's certainly slow.

Is there anyway to improve swap performance?

Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,02:31
You turn dma on? I'm looking at a webbrowser called links2 witch says it supports java. Maybe that's the one you could use, i'm still reading so i'll let you know what i think later.
Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,02:39
here's the homepage if you want to read up on links i'm playing with it now.->
< http://links.twibright.com/ >

Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,03:32
Never mind the links2 in dsl sucks.
Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,03:40
:D  Well thanks for the attempt.  And here I was busy trying to get all my deps correct to try it out.
Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,04:26
Oh, you can just use sarge repo and apt-get install links2
In dsl it runs in terminal using command links2, it looks like a blank terminal but it isn't you can click on the top and you'll see the menu witch for some reason is always hidden i have been using the goto url and type google.com to get to sites. In Xubuntu links2 looks way better, In dsl it looks dark not sure how to change that, but the site says links is fully configuerable. :D I still think dillo is better but it says links has been around longer.

Yeah, it's crap in dsl, i cant get images to work. In xubuntu it shows images and colors just like dillo.

Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,05:44
This is definitely a noob question, but what do you mean by "sarge repo?"  I tried using apt-get for links2 but it didn't work.
Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,06:07
It means change /etc/apt/sources.list so you can use sarge reposistories instead of old stable. But like i said don't waste your time with that links2 it dosen't work right. I'll keep looking for something better and test it in DSL in qemu on Xubuntu.
Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,06:17
Thanks once again, still learnin' here.  I appreciate the kind approach.
Posted by MrBear37 on June 17 2006,13:39
Greetings all !

  Just a quick note.. I am using firefox on a THinkpad 770.
I would also advise.. doing a Google for making firefox faster..
there you will find information about the settings in FireFox
called ABOUT:CONFIG   ( wihch you type in your browser address bar) .. to change a  couple of setting to make the rendering faster.
it wont make it lightning fast.. but it will improve performance.

Peace!

Mark

Posted by mikshaw on June 17 2006,13:50
Concerning links, it loads in text mode by default, which might be why you're thinking it sucks.  Loading it with the "-g" parameter should load it up with a gui, and clicking the bar at the top should display the menu.  I'm not sure if this applies to the version in myDSL.
Posted by cbagger01 on June 17 2006,17:25
Here is my list of browsers sorted by functionality and "footprint".

netrik (minimal text browsing. Best bang-for-buck)
lynx (the original text browser)
links (improved text browsing with optional compiled-in graphics support)
dillo (minimal graphics browsing)
links-hacked (supercharged version of the links graphical browser.  Not quite full-featured but still very good)
opera (full featured graphical browsing with high speed and relatively small footprint)
firefox (full featured, fully customizable, open-source graphical browser)

So if dillo is missing features and opera is too heavy for you, I would give links-hacked a try.

It is available in the mydsl repository UCI section, but it is filed as "glinks" instead of "links-hacked".  Here is the link to the extension:

< http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub....nks.uci >

Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,19:55
Link-hacked just didn't have enough lavascript support, and really that's what I'm looking for -- in a package with a small footprint.  Links2 may work for that.

Problem now is that when I apt-get install links2 I get the error,
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs.

I tried using the -o apt:force-loopbreak option last night, but it trashed the system.  I've reinstalled, any suggestions on how to get past that apt-get issue?

Posted by kerry on June 17 2006,20:03
Don't use the testing repo. Only in testing repo does it want to upgrade e2fsprogs. Change testing to sarge. But i would try "cbagger01" suggestion and just use the hacked version uci.

Edit: Yes, use the uci one that's what links is suppose to look like.
You just launch it with a right click on desktop>mydsl>glinks. you have to go to setup to turn java script on, just click on java than edit.

Posted by talraven on June 17 2006,22:41
Thanks you for being patient with my noobishness, now that I'm on the sarge repo things are a lot easier.

Even with the javascript on the hacked links doesn't work -- neither does links2.  The search continues.

Posted by kerry on June 18 2006,06:39
I wish you luck. I can't seem to find anything that would fit you.
Posted by JustoTech on June 22 2006,01:40
You could try something in the area of Konquerer.  It supports Java and seems to run a little faster and better than Firefox on old boxes or when running from CD.  That's what the old versions of Knoppix use.
Posted by kerry on June 22 2006,02:01
Have you any idea of the dependencys konqueror requires? You might as well install a full distro. Konqueror is just to much apart of kde, you have to install alot of kde stuff. Take another look at the specs trying to run on.->
My specs:
IBM Thinkpad 365X
P100 (Pentium Mobile 75-200)
40MB RAM
4GB Hard Drive
AC Sound

Posted by mikshaw on June 22 2006,03:23
I agree fully with kerry.  If your system doesn't run firefox Gtk1.2 in DSL, there's no way it will run konqueror with all of its Qt fat any better.
Posted by desnotes on June 22 2006,22:59
I would recommend Opera as your browser. It is lighter and faster than Firefox and has many, if not all, of the features. Additionally, it has an email & news client built-in. I use Opera for my DSL embedded because it loads and runs faster than Firefox.

Last I checked there was a 8.5x version in the DSL repository.

desNotes

Posted by pr0f3550r on June 23 2006,15:22
In my own experience, I run DSL in QEMU. When I run plain Qemu Opera runs faster than Firefox; conversely when I use the kqemu accellerator Firefox loads twice as fast.
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