Keeping apps you've installed....

Forum: Apps
Topic: Keeping apps you've installed....
started by: blip

Posted by blip on June 18 2007,11:15

Hi again
I've installed muse using 'apt-get install muse' from the old repositories. When I need to start Muse I have to go to usr/bin to open it.
When I reboot the machine, the app is no longer there ( in usr/bin). Sorry for such a newbie question - is there a way of backing it up easily so it's there next time?

Thanks for your patience with a noob!

Posted by roberts on June 18 2007,15:55

Use deb2dsl script it is in the dsl-dpkg.dsl. This will convert a .deb into a .dsl and then store the results with your other extensions. You probably used dpkg-restore which loaded dsl-dpkg.dsl in order for you to have apt-get and dpkg.

Posted by jpeters on June 18 2007,16:09

Quote (blip @ June 18 2007,07:15)

Curious how you downloaded it. Did you have to install perl, libqt-dev, etc, first?

Posted by blip on June 21 2007,21:17

No Jpeters I didn't. I just did an -apt get install muse from the old repositories. I think it installed a number of things a long the way as there was loadsa stuff scrolling up screen!
I've got Muse playing midi through Alsa ( I think as it's set to 'Alsa' inside Muse) and it's very impressive on such a small distribution. Unfortunately I stil am trying to get fluidsynth working with it

Posted by blip on June 21 2007,22:17

Thanks Roberts for taking the to explain that. I now have 'Muse' on my menu. Hoorah!

Posted by jpeters on June 22 2007,20:29

i get the following errors when apt-get installing muse:

ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 is not a symbolic link

ldconfig: /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11 is not a symbolic link

I'm not sure where or how to set up the "symbolic link"

Posted by blip on June 22 2007,21:56

To be honest Jpeters I've tried so many different combinations of things I'm a bit confused how I got it all working...I am running DSL 3.3 with Alsa and just did an apt-get muse from the old repository. I'm such a newbie I couldn't tell you what is going on! Sorry!

Posted by jpeters on June 23 2007,07:57

Kind-of got it loading (using ver 3.2) by loading opengl-libs.dsl first and doing a link : "ln -s libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1"

Now I get to play with ALSA....

.

Posted by blip on June 23 2007,09:39

Jpeters..just for your info...I've started (again!) from scratch today. booted up dsl 3.3. Went to old repository ( second line down in sources.list ).
Got fluidsynth. Got muse. So far so good!

I have found in Muse:

1) It seems to hang although music keeps playing. Then you have to kill the program. A real shame

2) I haven't imported a wav yet. Can't be sure if it's working with Alsa ( Alsa is selected in Muse but I'm not sure what's working).

Thanks for showing us that ti p above - you are more advanced than me! If you make any more progress please let us know. You are welcome to try to get fluidsynth working in Muse!

Posted by blip on June 23 2007,12:44

When you try to run deb2dsl to keep Muse in the menu, on a reboot it doesn't start from the menu...I have to re-install doing apt-get update.

Posted by jpeters on June 23 2007,19:47

deb2dsl creates "muse.dsl", probably in /home/dsl. Load that the same as any other dsl extension; no more apt-get.

EDIT: If alsa isn't recognizing your midi input devices, etc., forget it. I currently use a windows PC for a recording studio. Have you tried Audacity (in the MyDsl repository) for basic wave editiing, recording, etc.?

Posted by blip on June 25 2007,12:41

Yes I've used deb2dsl and it does create a muse.dsl but when you try to re-load it after a reboot it doesn't reload.

Alsa is recognising my midi input device ( you look in proc/asound/cards and it's listed there). The difficultly is when you come to using a sequencer....what do you select? My USB midi interface is not listed in the available outputs. So my guess is that some sort of named pipe has to be set up pointing to the dev that is the midi interface. I remember when running Steem ( Atari emulator) normally I could get midi output if I typed /Dev/midi00 - but then that would send midi out through my soundblaster.

When you look in the devs folder there are many listings in there...how I can I tell which to use?

All I know is that when I view proc/asound/cards I can see two things - on 0: I see my Soundblaster. On 1 I see my UM-1X Edirol midi interface.

It's not the end of the world...I can go over to Ubuntu Studio as it's more suited to the purpose..it's just it would have been nice to get this all working so I can boot from USB.
Also you can't put a soundblaster PCI card into a laptop....or a mini computer...so we're stuck with using USB or Firewire midi interfaces and on board sound ( Unless of course you buy a usb audio/midi interface ).

Incidentally when I fired up Ubuntu Studio it didn't recognise my M Audio 2x2 midi interface...which is interesting....as my Studio 2 go distro does recognise it and it works straight out of the box.

I am doing this whole thing more for an experiment initially, but it would be nice to get it working and booting from USB. Also I like the quick loadup times of DSL...if I was using another distro and the hard drive corrupts its' frustrating...of course you can boot from a live CD and use a USB pen ( with the other distrols).

Audacity is a great tool but I want to do midi sequencing. I've used Rosegarden and it's a great bit of software but I prefer Muse...it's more ( almost identical ) to the Atari St/Cubase interface which I still think was one of the best designed / thought out sequencer in terms of editing. Of course Rosegarden is still work in progress and I am amazed they have done so much in such little time ( including getting VST instruments working).

Maybe I should save myself a lot of time and go and fork out for a sound module like a Yamaha Motif ES Rack. Trouble is they're best part of Ł800 which I don't have!