FireFox 0.8 is Out! (was FireBird)
Forum: Apps
Topic: FireFox 0.8 is Out! (was FireBird)
started by: Rapidweather
Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 11 2004,04:30
I edited the .fbird_grab.sh and .fbird_grab.pl scripts to download and installthe new Firefox 0.8, which is the successor to MozillaFirebird 0.7 that we use
in Damn Small Linux.
Everything went ok until I tried to get it to run.
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I have firefox in the /opt/firefox directory, with all the usual Mozilla files, similar
to what you have in the /MozillaFirebird directory.
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When I CD to /opt/firefox, and #./firefox, that script runs the run-mozilla.sh
script, which then quits with this message:
Line 451: 844 Illegal Instruction
"$prog" ${1+"$@"}
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And no FireFox started...
So, I looked at /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh in Scite (our fine little editor)
and found at line 194:
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## Run the program
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"$prog" ${1+"$@"} <this is the line in question
exitcode=$?
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Here are the scripts I used to get this far: (I have renamed them for Firefox)
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< http://www.angelfire.com/ms/telegram/firefox_grab_sh >
and
< http://www.angelfire.com/ms/telegram/firefox_grab_pl >
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(Both of these scripts, if you wish to try them, should be renamed
on your DSL system to firefox_grab.sh and firefox_grab.pl)
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These are rough scripts, and I downloaded Firefox by just running the
/opt/.firefox_grab.pl script, and not the /opt/firefox_grab.sh, since I
did not care to install an Icon on the desktop just yet.
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Frankly, I am a little suprised that this got that far along. The run-mozilla.sh
script has been around a while, and I am not going to try and fiddle with it.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Posted by roberts on Feb. 11 2004,07:06
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| I downloaded Firefox by just running the /opt/.firefox_grab.pl script, and not the /opt/firefox_grab.sh, since I did not care to install an Icon on the desktop just yet. |
The .fbird_grab.sh shell script does not install an icon on the desktop. It only creates an entry for on icon in the .xtdesktop directory. The icon ONLY appears on the desktop if the use has already chosen to display icons.
Your .firefox_grab.sh is broken. Syntax error.
You are missing the X coordinate and your nested if structure is missing an fi at the very end of the script.
Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 11 2004,13:55
Yes, these scripts are rough all right, I had used firefox_grab.pl to actually download Firefox, and so I do have a /opt/firefox directory, supposedly ready to go, with all that the downloaded items firefox-0.8-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz would put there. My question is, why can't I run Firefox. I get as far as described in my earlier post, and "no cigar".
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My plan was to get Firefox running, then return and try and work on the
scripts. I did change my filetool.lst to include the /opt/firefox directory, so I could keep what I already downloaded and unzipped. I don't have a
.phoenix or whatever yet, since Firefox didn't actually start. Since I have
MozillaFirebird (and Opera) on this box, I temporarily renamed .phoenix to get it out of the way in case Firefox ran and wanted to generate one.
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Most likely, this edition of Firefox might get included in the next DSL,
then that will solve all that. I hear too that there is a new Dillo.
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Other than clean up my scripts, I have no idea how I am going to get past the error message when run-mozilla.sh runs. I thought about downloading Firefox in Mandrake or something and see how that goes, but
I think the failure is on my part (within DSL), not Mozilla's.
BTW, I downloaded the Windows version, and that works fine.
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Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 11 2004,14:06
I fixed firefox_grab.sh in the angelfire web link per your suggestions, so it should work to get any testers something to work with.---
Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 11 2004,14:07
I fixed firefox_grab.sh in the angelfire web link per your suggestions, so it should work to get any testers something to work with.---
Posted by hasty on Feb. 11 2004,18:19
Is there a genuine improvement in the browser or is it mainly cosmetic ?Just curious and I must admit, not really bothered as three on a mini distro is almost indecent
Posted by roberts on Feb. 11 2004,18:36
Well, firefox is slightly smaller. MozillaFirbird from download is 28MB where firefox is 27MB. But, I have already seen a rendering problem with Yahoo Mail where the text overlayed an input box.The download scripts are easy to modify and it works including flash. Flash works.
They still use the .phoenix and .mozilla directories. With so many names I think that is confusing. You cannot run both Firebird and Firefox because of these same directories.
Alot of cosmetic changes. The dialog box have the buttons in a different layout.
Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 12 2004,02:46
Mozilla posted information on their MozillaZine website:< http://www.mozillazine.org/ >
that there were some startup problems with the Windows version.
Don't know if that affects Linux, but the root of the problem was
old installations of phoenix, firebird, etc. that had incompatable
extensions. They do have some fixes for that problem for "Unix", so
I guess that's us.
I'll try some of that to see if I can get my downloaded FireFox 0.8 to start.
Their main recommendation is to uninstall the older versions. For us, that
would be simple, and if things don't work out, just put a good restore
tarball in your backup/restore device, and you are back where you started.
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Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 12 2004,04:03
Sorry for the double post above. I wondered what happened to my preview, now I know.----
Anyway, I cleaned up the scripts (again) and after deleting the /MozillaFirebird directory and the ~/.phoenix directory, I downloaded FireFox and flash. Well, I have problems with my icon part of the .firefox_grab.sh, so that isn't working, and no, I cannot start FireFox 0.8,
as per the above posts, problems with run-mozilla.sh.
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I have fully populated /opt/firefox directories, and I have no idea why it won't run.
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I was hoping to get this thing solved, and modified scripts posted, to help out on the next edition of DSL in some small way. Apparently, FireFox might not be ready for Prime-Time, so I'm sticking with MozillaFirebird 7 for now.
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It's not the scripts fault, I could have just downloaded the tarball, and placed it in /opt and unzipped it there and had the same result (without
flash). I may try that with a nightly tarball, and see if they have done anything to help me out.
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Posted by roberts on Feb. 12 2004,06:49
No problemo here, Firefox with Flash is running fine for me on my standard liveCD DSL 0.5.2 All I did was to replace all occurences of MozillaFirebird with firefox and replaced version number 7 with 8. I didn't even delete my .phoenix and .mozilla directories. Rapidweather, I cannot duplicate your problem.
Posted by hasty on Feb. 12 2004,19:06
Unfortunate associations here....Firefox is down in my book & Rapidws as well
Posted by TyphoonMentat on Feb. 15 2004,17:38
Rapidweather, are you running a system which isn't Pentium 2 or above? The only builds I can find for Firefox are for 686 and greater processors, so they won't work on older systems.
Posted by kensim on Feb. 18 2004,16:28
I tried to install Firefox (from the gzipped tarball) on my two DSL installations. On my 166Mhz AMD 686, it runs nicely -- but I haven't yet found a single improvement on Firebird, and some CSS tricks which rendered nicely on Firebird are a mess on Firefox. On my 133Mhz Pentium, no joy at all. As the two installations are otherwise identical, I can only assume that there's a hardware issue. So that particular machine will have to live with archaic old Firebird for the time being.
Incidently, the 133Mhz machine (64mb ram) is running OpenOffice 1.1 (relatively) beautifully. Slow as molasses, but hey, it works.
Ken Simons, Toronto
Posted by Rapidweather on Feb. 19 2004,00:21
The error message I got didn't refer to out of date libraries, or something that you get by trying to run firefox on a 586 box. I did dig around on the Mozillazine board, and found where someone had compiled a 586 version,of FireFox which I use on Mandrake 8, which is a 586 distro. Up to now, I could only run Phoenix 5.0.
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I might try unzipping that 586 version in DSL's /opt, and see what happens.
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If I succeed with that experiment, I'll get back here. But, DSL 0.6 probably sticks with Firebird 7, since it will run ok on older boxes.
I get kinda confused here, I have tried to install Redhat 9 on 586 boxes and
at the end of the install, it gives up. That should have been made clear by the Red Hat installer right off, not after you have selected all your packages, etc.
The installer quits before it starts writing the packages to the hard drive, but
after it has already partitioned the drive to suit Redhat Linux 9.
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So, if you can get a distro to run and install, then the browser should run.
If you have an older distro, then a browser designed for a newer distro won't run, unless in my case, it has been re-compiled to run on the older distro.
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