.dsl problems


Forum: Apps
Topic: .dsl problems
started by: dmizzel

Posted by dmizzel on April 16 2005,02:39
Part 1:
I have downloaded gtk2.dsl and gnu-utils.dsl .... what now??? :(  I am running dsl from the live cd with boot options mdsl=hda1 restore=hda1 .  I tried placing them in my optional folder,  which makes them show up in mydsl install optional extentions.  Is that correct? Please see Part 2 for why I believe it's not.

Part2:
I believe the answers to part 2 will be solved by the answer to part 1.
The following are a list of .dsl extensions that I cant get to work:
gnupod,  gtkpod,  gtkpod-gtk2-0.72,  abiword (loads and runs fine except for when I try to open a .doc,  only ??????? comes up in place of the text).  

I have searched the forms for hours and have not found any answers.

Thanx in advance!   :D

Posted by mikshaw on April 16 2005,05:11
placing them in /optional gives you quick access to install them via the menu, but it does not install them.  You still need to click on the file in the menu in order to install the extension.  If you want them installed automatically they need to be placed in the root of hda1 (or whatever you decide to use for "mydsl=")
Posted by dmizzel on April 17 2005,00:36
I understand about clicking on the files in the mydsl "Install optional extension" menu to install them (which I have done).  Even after doing so,  Part2 of my problem (listed above)  is still in effect.  The apps listed don't work.  Any suggestions?

New question:  so If I place the gtk2.dsl and the gnu-utils.dsl ANYWHERE on my "mydsl="  it will automatically load?

Posted by mikshaw on April 17 2005,01:31
New answer: No.  It has to be placed in the root of that partition in order to be loaded automatically.

I've never used gtk2 in DSL so i don't know from experience, but you may want to read the info files of the extensions that don't work, and also the info file for gtk2.dsl.  Maybe you need to do something special to get them to run.

Posted by dmizzel on April 17 2005,03:08
I read the info files (the info files from the repository) and there is nothing much there.  Thanx for your help.  

To clarify:
On mydsl=hda1 I don't have any files except for optional (where my .dsl extensions are)  and the backup.tar.gz  .  If i create a folder on Hda1 and name it root,  then place .gnu-utils and .gtk2 files in there will that work????  Or must I use the mydsl cd remaster?

Posted by cbagger01 on April 17 2005,04:48
No.

Put your gtk2 and gnu-utils dsl file in the same directory where your backup.tar.gz is already located.

Then reboot.

Posted by ke4nt1 on April 17 2005,05:06
But then you'll STILL need to run the " Update to GTK2" from the menu..
This does the post-install portion of the gtk2/font/perl setup..

73
ke4nt

Posted by mikshaw on April 17 2005,05:15
the "root" of a partition doesn't mean a directory named "root"....it's the very top level of the partition.  For example, the KNOPPIX & boot directories are located in the root of the booted partition.
Posted by dmizzel on April 20 2005,07:00
Thanx for the "root" clarification,  I tired that and it still doesn't work (placing gtk2.dsl & gnu-utils.dsl in the root folder and the selecting them from the menu for the post-install).  I noticed in all of the text that scrolls during the boot process,  there is a message saying "invalid tar magic" following gnu-utils and the gtk2 extensions.   ???
Posted by adraker on April 20 2005,11:10
Could you say the DSL version, and amount of RAM available?
Also, have the extensions md5summed O.K.?
Just wondering if you're in a low RAM situation, and are running out.
And, of course, if the extensions themselves have downloaded O.K...

Posted by dmizzel on April 22 2005,07:02
Sure,  I have 3 different computers I am trying this on.  All with DSL 1.0.
1. (pentium I  199mhz and 96mb ram) :D
2. (pentium III 999mhz and 256mb)
3. (amd duron @ 999mhz and 512mb)

I have not md5summed them,  that's what I'll try now.

Anyone have any ideas about Abiword??  All I get is question marks when I try to open a .doc . and before that happens it asks me for a password?? I know it must be something I'm doing,  I just can't figure it out.

Posted by adraker on April 23 2005,00:32
dmizzel,
If you got those extensions under DSL 1.0,
Abiword is probably not getting what it needs from the other extensions.
Have a look at < Roberts's thread. >
It may be prudent to get DSL 1.0.1 and maybe do the extensions again.
I am on dial-up, but I would cut my losses and re-download.
Actually, I did.
 :)

Posted by dmizzel on April 23 2005,02:47
adraker,
Thanx for your help. I have dialup as well so it will have to wait until tonight while I sleep :)

Posted by dmizzel on May 05 2005,07:45
I did an md5sum of my gnu-utils.dsl  and gtks.dsl and they came back bad (they should have an emoticon of my looking like a jack-ass) :)  I will now check everything I get before posting problems about it.

I still can't figure out abiword (yes I did an md5sum check and it came back OK),  I now have DSL1.0.1. I have downloaded openoffice.uci which is working good so far.

I'm getting the following message from abiword when it opens my .doc file as all question marks:

(abiword:1129): gdk - Warning **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING : Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported.

Posted by ke4nt1 on May 05 2005,14:20
That's an old issue.. hmm..
and I thought that was fixed in the latest version of gnu-utils.dsl ..
Are you using the newest?

First things first..
1. Put a fresh copy of dpkg.dsl and gnu-utils.dsl in the root of
the partition that has your /KNOPPIX directory in it..  nothing more..  
..reboot..

2. Now, manually try to install the abiword.dsl
( which is an old version, and probably NOT compatible with the latest gtk2 )
by typing in a shell " mydsl-load /path/to/abiword "

3. Does abiword work OK now ?
..close abiword..

4. Add the gtk2.dsl to your same area you have the dsl-dpkg and gun-utils,
and for a fully automatic install, place the line " start_gtk2 " in your /opt/bootlocal file.
..backup and reboot..

5. Grab the abiword-gtk2-2.0.10.dsl file from the repository.
  Install via the mydsl-load command , try to run it.  Is It OK ??

6. When grabbing other extensions from the repository ( gtkpod ) ,
check in the gtk2 section of the repository first.. for a gtk2 version.

I haven't personally checked every combination of gtk2 and gtk1.2 apps,
but my guess is that there may well be some instances where they
don't get along ( i.e , the older abiword ) ..

I did find that the copy of gtkpod that was in the multimedia section
was a gtk2 version WITH the full gtk2 in it.  I have removed it to
prevent confusion..  It was the same version as the one in the gtk2 area.
Thanks for the tip.

73
ke4nt

Posted by dmizzel on May 15 2005,07:49
[quote=ke4nt1,May 05 2005,10:20]That's an old issue.. hmm..
and I thought that was fixed in the latest version of gnu-utils.dsl ..
Are you using the newest?

yes,  the latest as of May 5th 2005

QUOTE
"First things first..
1. Put a fresh copy of dpkg.dsl and gnu-utils.dsl in the root of
the partition that has your /KNOPPIX directory in it..  nothing more..  
..reboot.."

I am booting from cd with ' mydsl=hda2 restore=hda2 '  Should I put them in the root of hda2?  

As for 2, 3, 4, & 5 I will await your response to this post.

Thanx

p.s. I still don't know how to use 'quote' properly.  I'm fine for 1 quote but how do I do multiple quotes in the same post?

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