anything and everything, installing to USB


Forum: USB booting
Topic: anything and everything, installing to USB
started by: wyvern

Posted by wyvern on July 06 2005,11:33
:cool: ok well I have been a windows user since I was 7 *yeah yeah Boo's and Hisses* anyway being converted at the moment due to problems setting up a server but only just discovering it....

I have a 128 MB USB flash drive laying around I thought would put to use...

my Step Daughter travels alot....

she is 10 doesn't know the URL's for her email etc off by heart so needs help and when she is away from here she doesn't get it, when home she just uses a client anyway...

so I thought a live cd version on USB would help her out....

but to save problems when she uses other's PC's and with various versions I don't really want her having to boot the entire computer to use it...basically be able to plug it in start it up and everything is there for her....

I don't know if she will want to save anything to the USB, her email wont need to be as it is all collected here anyway *yes we check her mail for things she shouldn't be receiving*

from my reading here (yes done alot of that already but most of it is *whizzing* over my head) it seems that it requires some additional installed haven't got the page open so can't remember what you called it this instant, started with g

anyway downloaded the Iso, lol and the 5way lol and the bootlivecd - usb img and got no idea what the hell I am doing or even what will work....

basically my mind is thinking I am missing something (namely that other program which can't understand what to do with it)

other than that am I right in thinking I burn and run the liveCD set up what she needs right click and install to USB ?

if you keep your explainations simple enough I can manage, priority is that using it is simple for her. plug in and use....

NB. winzip can't open the tar file 5way, so I am stuck  ???

Posted by cbagger01 on July 06 2005,16:04
You need to burn the *.iso file to a CD-R disk as a "burn cd image file".

You can't run the 5-way script from MSWindows.  It needs to be run from inside DSL after you boot up from your livecd.

Set your computer BIOS to allow booting from CDROM (it may already be enabled by default).

Then stick in your newly burnt livecd and reboot the machine.

Posted by wyvern on July 06 2005,16:20
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You need to burn the *.iso file to a CD-R disk as a "burn cd image file".

You can't run the 5-way script from MSWindows.  It needs to be run from inside DSL after you boot up from your livecd.

Set your computer BIOS to allow booting from CDROM (it may already be enabled by default).

Then stick in your newly burnt livecd and reboot the machine.

burnt disk had it sitting next to me half the night wondering what to do with it :p

I think I discovered that just a moment ago

can't seem to do it using vmware, I hate that thing but wont go into my gripes right now....

I finally managed to download a file I could open with winzip  :D  without it spitting up an error

thanks for that, having to reboot this PC isn't fun but we must do what we must do  :;): I shall likely be back in half an hour saying Ahhhhhmmm I am stuck again  :D

ohhhhhhhhhhhh translation would be really nice right about now  :(

Posted by wyvern on July 06 2005,16:45
ok question, on another PC downloading it all over again

I have pretty much no idea which is what in this O/S to be honest so what do I use to open it  ???

just maybe to save me a few hours of trial error and hunting  :D

Posted by wyvern on July 07 2005,04:52
oh FUDGE! :( I think I totally ballsed it
Posted by cbagger01 on July 07 2005,05:48
If you want to use DSL on a USB thumb drive with 5-way booting support, you will need to reboot your "real" computer and boot up natively using a DSL livecd.

You cannot do it from a virtual PC like VMWare or QEMU because you don't have direct access to your real PC's USB devices.

So...

After downloading the ISO file, open up Nero and choose:

File -> Burn Image (For Nero 5.x)

or

Recorder -> Burn Image (For Nero 6.x)

and create a livecd.

Then, reboot the computer and go into your BIOS.  Enable booting from CDROM at higher priority than your hard drive.

Then boot up the livecd with the USB drive already plugged in and Right-Click on the desktop somewhere.

Choose "Install to USB Pen Drive" from the menu and follow the instructions.

Finally, download the 5-way script and open a xterminal window and type "sudo su" and then ENTER key.

First you must untar (like UNZIP in Windows) the script file

tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz

Then cd into the newly created subdirectory and then type in the name of the script to run it.

Posted by wyvern on July 07 2005,06:16
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If you want to use DSL on a USB thumb drive with 5-way booting support, you will need to reboot your "real" computer and boot up natively using a DSL livecd.


yep did that last night, although not with this one...I forgot I didn't build this one lol so I ended up stuffing around with the one I did build...the guy in sydney who put this one together for my boss didn't quite do it the way I would have....anyway..

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You cannot do it from a virtual PC like VMWare or QEMU because you don't have direct access to your real PC's USB devices.


yep had figured that out after playing around with it a couple of hours last night, but I have to check out linux in VM for another project I am working on......

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So...

After downloading the ISO file, open up Nero and choose:

File -> Burn Image (For Nero 5.x)

or

Recorder -> Burn Image (For Nero 6.x)

and create a livecd.


had done already

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Then, reboot the computer and go into your BIOS.  Enable booting from CDROM at higher priority than your hard drive.


yep

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Then boot up the livecd with the USB drive already plugged in and Right-Click on the desktop somewhere.


yep worked second time once I had the disk in the right CD rom

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Choose "Install to USB Pen Drive" from the menu and follow the instructions.


I actually did that.....is the usb-zip and another option can't remember off the top of my head this second....

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Finally, download the 5-way script and open a xterminal window and type "sudo su" and then ENTER key.

First you must untar (like UNZIP in Windows) the script file

tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz

Then cd into the newly created subdirectory and then type in the name of the script to run it.

needed to know that

the rest still has me a little confused, so I enter the command tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz within the terminal window.

to cd means absolutely nothing to me, and I am guessing the subdirectory wont be immediately obvious to me either at that point, ahhhhhhhhh are you saying to copy the directing into the subdirectory then run one of the files within it?

Posted by wyvern on July 07 2005,07:38
well the install to pendrive installs the lot, then can'tmove the rest over as it says not enough space....

so far have figured out sda is the stick, sda1 is the bootable bit with dsl in it....

I really miss drag and drop, I am soooooooooo too used to seeing everything right in front of me....in windows it would be a drive :(

trying to make sense of the read me files although they are making a little more sense than they did last night, still a little confused...

Posted by wyvern on July 07 2005,12:30
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First you must untar (like UNZIP in Windows) the script file

tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz


just a  quick question how do you unzip a zip file?

Posted by cbagger01 on July 07 2005,18:20
unzip filename.zip

where "filename" is the name of your file.

To be more specific on the 5-way stuff:

1) Download the 5-way.tgz file from the dsl web site
2) Open up an xterminal window and type:

sudo su
tar -zxvf 5-way.tgz
cd 5-way
./5way_install.sh

and then follow the instructions.

Posted by wyvern on July 08 2005,04:34
Thanks cbagger1 you've been a BIG help :D
Posted by wyvern on July 08 2005,12:31
ok well so far....

DSL USB pendirve 5-way installation utility.
no responsibility yada yada ....
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Ready to proceed (y/..)?
Standby fetching the embedded zip file...
connecting to www.ibiblio.or[152.2.210.80]:21
wget:RETR: /pub/Linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-embedded:No sich file or directory
Error while trying to fetch the embedded zip file. Scrpt is terminating...

yada yada cursor:p

currently downloading the dsl-embeddedzip file from planet mirror, other than plodding along and trying trial and error (going to try this again before I give up completely but also thinking of other ways to do it....

Oh yes I am actually online ??? wouldn't be writing this if I wasn't

oh hang on no I am not downloading it from planet mirror, the error message is

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/home/dsl/dsl-embed yada yada could not be saved, because the source file could not be read. try again later, or contact the server administrator....


got a chance to try again as kids in bed :(

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