no boot from cf on ide-adapter, where to go next?Forum: DSL Embedded Topic: no boot from cf on ide-adapter, where to go next? started by: vinnie Posted by vinnie on Oct. 25 2006,00:22
Hello, i've succesfully installed dsl (frugal) on a 128MB cf which is installed in an HP Brio BA400 pc using a cf2ide adapter, but......it won't boot! Please help. It does boot in another old pc system, so the installation on the cf-card is fine. But I don't know where to go next to make it work on the HP Brio pc. - the bios could be updated to a newer version , but i doubt if it would make a difference, there was only one change in the version regarding to cpu support. - maybe the bios primary master hd needs to be set to user type hdd (manual), i tried this with settings i copied from the other pc bios info but wasn't succesfull at booting this, not even when it was set to "match partition table". The other old pc recognizes the cf-on-ide as a toshiba(etcetera) with cyl 978, head 8, sector 32... but the brio doesn't show this info: during boot when it's detecting the primary ide master it displays None. What else could be done for trying to make dsl work (boot)? Booting with a floppy is not rly an option, the cf2ide adapter occuppies the only one fd-powercable. The Brio is really good for home-server purpose, the cpu and mobo are both fanless, and the 90W powersupply is also very very quiet. - edit1: Probably it's sufficient to use grub istead of lilo for booting, but i have to fiddle out how to accomplish this... - edit2: Installing grub wasn't that hard after all, but it didn't solve my problem. - edit3: I read about SYSLINUX or LOADLIN, could that be the solution? (PS: sry for using the wrong forum, topic should be moved elsewhere...) Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Oct. 25 2006,15:08
If it isn't even showing up in the BIOS, I don't think you can use it at all?...Maybe try changing around the physical location on the cable or ide port... Posted by Stephanie on Nov. 02 2006,13:51
If you have verified that your IDE / CF setup is functioning in another computer, then its possible that your problem can be solved by a relatively simple fix.I just put an IDE/CF card into my Toshiba Libretto and had identical symptoms - the setup was prooved to work with other hardware, but would not boot in the Toshiba, and wasn't even recognized by the Toshiba when booting off a floppy. The problem was that the master / slave setting on the IDE-CF adaptor was not working 100%. Pin 28 appearantly is the cable select pin, and on the IDE-CF adaptor this pin is not connected, i.e. left floating. In some computers, a floating pin 28 can be erroneously detected as a cable-select signal and the drive for whatever reason was configuring itself as a slave. The solution was to solder a jumper between pin 28 and pin 30 (ground) to tie CSEL to ground, in order to prevent the erroneous assignment as slave drive. Here's a page I found which details the problem. It does not specificaly deal with IDE-CF adaptors, but it is the same problem and the solution worked for me. < Random Cable Select Glitch > Once I made that little jumper, my system booted right up -- and it's scary quiet, much faster, and the battery lasts over 4 hours now. -Stephanie Posted by samwhite59 on Nov. 07 2006,19:22
Hi, I'm a new member here. I'm having the exact same problem with my HP Brio BA400, and a compact flash to IDE adapter. The adapter isn't detected by the bios (pc has version IJ.26.04, the latest on it) so I can't use it. I've tried it in another computer and the adapter is detected fine, I've also tried a different compactflash card but it still doesn't show in the bios. Changing the single jumper doesn't have any effect. Its a nice, very reliable computer and I don't want to have to change the motherboard just to get this to work.
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