Topic: Frozen Bubble
started by: ke4nt1
Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 12 2005,06:42Frozen Bubble
Basic XFree86/NVidia setup ( slow without NVidia.dsl )
Much better than the xbubble extension.
Posted by henk1955 on Jan. 12 2005,10:44runs fast with ( XFree86.dsl without mvidia.dsl):
XDESC="ATI|Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]"
Posted by Max on Jan. 12 2005,15:54Is this prog posted somewhere?
Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 12 2005,18:46I have a .dsl version ready for upload..
(..ibiblio is being stupid again..)
Posted by adraker on Jan. 14 2005,07:01Ke4nt-
Looking forward to this !!
I thought I might try Emilia Pinball,
but soon discovered "SDL" ? was involved.
This brought me to a grinding halt.
This seems huge, and I have not yet
found all the .debs to do it.
Have any of the games you've shown
involved this SDL?
Posted by clivesay on Jan. 14 2005,13:22adraker -
I may be a little fuzzy here but I think the SDL packages are part of many games. You can apt-get it from the unstable branch I know. I'm not sure if there are multiple packages for SDL but I am pretty sure that the IntellivisionGamepak.dsl I put together has some SDL libs and it is pretty small.
Just give it a go and see what you get. That is the beauty of building your package on the livecd.
Posted by mpie on Jan. 14 2005,14:05sdl id typically 3 packages sdl-image sdl-mixer sdl -ttf
they provide the graphics and sound links for may linux games whole lot is about 12Meg...........
could be a handy .dsl..........
dont think there is any post install config so a candidate for deb to dsl...... not aware of any odd dependecies for the either would have a go but..... still no useable net at home.....
spying from work at the mo.......
back online 25th tho!
Posted by clivesay on Jan. 14 2005,15:11mpie, you raise an interesting point about the SDL.dsl that I have thought about before also.
It's really ke4nt's call. We can make the repository as modular as we want but I am not sure where you draw that line. We now have a gtk2 section so in theory you could have a SDL gaming section but that is more work for ke4nt I would think.
Now that we are getting into the gaming side of Linux with 3D and such, the repository is really becoming a sight to behold. I hope ke4nt's strength holds up. We may have to all pitch in and send him a big shipment of coffee beans!
Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 14 2005,15:49mpie/clivesay: I was thinking a very similar thing the other day, since I've recently built at least 2 extensions which require SDL libs. I thought of maybe having the runtime libs available as individual extensions, but they're really quite small and nothing compared to gtk2. The 12 MB you mention probably includes headers and static libs, which are unnecessary in a typical DSL system. I put together the 8 or 9 SDL runtime libraries I have, including 2 versions of libSDL, and the whole directory is 1.4mb uncompressed and unstripped.
825k stripped and less one libSDL
Posted by clivesay on Jan. 14 2005,16:19mikshaw -
Exactly. When I put together the Intellivision clones they were only a little over a meg and that is two games combined!
Maybe that is not needed in the repository but is a personal .dsl for whenever you are building games. I plan on building some more here soon. I have had good luck using alien to convert .rpm files to .deb and build apps that work in DSL.
I guess we are getting a little off topic for Frozen Bubble.
Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 14 2005,16:50
The feedback I get from John and Robert is have the minimum of
modularity in the extensions ( as few "depends-on-*.dsl" ) as possible.
The idea is to have most extensions run as-is* from the
booted stock LiveCD, with few necessities.
** not to include the gnu-utils.dsl,
which I suggest having installed ANYTIME you intend to
expand your DSL filesystem beyond the minimal distro..
Busybox is NO substitute for true utils when building a custom filesystem.. **
The gtk2.dsl is so fat, it was MY desire only to have a factored out group of extensions
that would share the package,
giving folks an option not to have to download it with every extension.
Notice that I have also made full packages that DO include the
entire gtk2 set inside the extension as well, for folks that want
to install only the one app to a stock install.
It was my intention to make the gtk2 subset
an exception to the rule, rather than an example.
I hope in the future that the gtk2 factored apps section continues to grow.
It will be far easier to upgrade/maintain both the libs and
the apps in the gtk2 area than rebuilding all of the full versions with every upgrade/change..
Posted by adraker on Jan. 14 2005,21:31I'm really out of time-sync here!
Thanks for info clivesay/mpie.
That was my next thought....
SDL.dsl for the benefit of mankind.
But I see Ke4nt's point.
Didn't mean to deflect Frozen-Bubbledness
of thread.....really hanging out for it!
Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 15 2005,01:40It is posted - a full version.. In the " testing " area..
I want to also make a " lite " version - the sound alone is over 6 MB's
Without sound it should be closer to 10MB's,
and play better on challenged systems.
Posted by adraker on Jan. 15 2005,04:14Thanks ke4nt1 and other contributors
for making it possible.
I just d'led on dialup, works fine with my
nvidia card and acceleration. Can't try it
on anything else until I go back to work
Monday (I've given myself a secondary
role as DSL tester for the company-
they'll appreciate it some day, maybe
give me an award or something....).
I'll just have to get them all using Linux
Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 15 2005,05:08The quest you seek is difficult at first, adraker .. I remember w.h.e.n.........
( sounds of time drifting back to an earlier day, many moons ago.. )
Many thought I was just "toying" around with a new distro.
...." that linux thing he does " ....
time spent laughing at others reinstalling their os's, or fighting yet
another round of biff, crud, and bugs.. and more reinstalls...and updates....
( Hey, what'cha doin? ) I say.. with a rather large grin on my face..
He knew that I knew WHAT he was doing, but you GOTTA rub it in sometimes?
(grr.. downloading my video drivers again .. I wanna play RTCW,
but I had to reinstall my windows, and all my software, cause my HD crashed. ) he says..
... it's not his fault, ....really....
... Besides, I appreciated receiving his old 'perfectly working' hard drive...
( Here, boot this... ) I hand over a DVD-R
( What is it? ) he asks?
( RTCW, UT, Q3, and a few others ) ....I smile.
( But I haven't installed my Drivers yet?) he mumbles.
( after your download, boot it ) .. I said ..
( boot it?) he appears puzzled, like deer caught in front of headlights.
( yes, boot it up.. ) I smile, and exit...
....more time passes....
( Linux? I need Windows!..) is heard defiantly...
... computer boots up into beautiful X , with icons ...
....more time passes.... sound of gunfire, mayhem..
I return, only to find a drooling , jonesing game fiend getting his 'fix'..
( Hey , what'cha doin? ) I say, again..
( WoW! ..) ..is the only word spoken, amidst more gunfire.
I didn't expect to get that DVD back anyway!
Posted by adraker on Jan. 15 2005,06:13
If I actually had any ducklings, I'd read it to
them at bedtime!
I've tried to "force" DSL onto people, and it
You need an enquiring mind.
The chief engineer came in the other day,
noticed a pair of webbed feet on the desk,
and a penguin on the desktop,
and said "Ooooh, thats Linux!"..rather shrewdly.
I showed him what it did, and gave him a copy
later.He actually came in for a "free Iridium antenna",
and I promised to look in an old ARRL handbook
one day.Didn't promise to actually make anything...
He mumbled something about a P75.....
and sixteen "other computers at home".
We'll see how he goes......
I have a sinking feeling he'll be introducing me to
some of his PCs in the near future.