stripped down DSL


Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: stripped down DSL
started by: khagberg

Posted by khagberg on Dec. 09 2005,15:24
I think they have done a great job on DSL and it is very easy to use and add packages.

but:

have they thought of releasing a stripped down version. When i say stripped down I am refering to the added apps such as editors, browsers and such. Not just X apps but cli apps as well. They have done a good job at allowing users to add apps, why do they need multiple editors and web browsers and filemanagers. Why not have a distro they gets X up and then you can pick and choose which ones you want.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by green on Dec. 09 2005,15:40
50Mb is not stripped down enuf ?
IMHO, I think it's pretty darn cool that all those things are stuffed into 50Mb.
It's easy to pick and choose what you want, either click it or don't.
lol

Posted by khagberg on Dec. 09 2005,15:46
50mb is stripped down but would like to go smaller. But like I said, why do I need multilpe browsers and editors and other apps. Why not strip them out and let me choose the ones i want.

Maybe you can tell me how to remove the unneeded apps?

Posted by green on Dec. 09 2005,15:53
How are you running DSL?
Live?
Hard Drive?
USB?

I am sure someone here can tell you how to remove them based on how you are running your DSL.

Posted by khagberg on Dec. 09 2005,15:57
I am running installed on Harddrive. (not frugal install)

would love to be able to go into synaptic and remove the unneeded apps, but they dont appear as installed. ie firefox

Posted by green on Dec. 09 2005,16:08
Perhaps you could search the forums?

< http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....nd+apps >

< http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....nd+apps >

Posted by khagberg on Dec. 09 2005,16:15
I have searched the forums as well as the web and have not found an easy way to remove preinstalled apps. The posts that you reference dont give you an easy way to remove them. Using firefox as an example, how do you determine all the files that are installed with it so you know what to remove.
Posted by mikshaw on Dec. 09 2005,16:56
I think the most effective way is to learn how the filesystem hierarchy works.  Applications are usually installed with a specific arrangement of directories.  If you know or discover the prefix of an app's installation, for example /usr/local or /opt/something, most apps will have their executable(s) installed in $PREFIX/bin. Docs, examples, images, etc will be in $PREFIX/share.  Often there is a subdirectory with the same or similar name as the name of the application, so finding which files to remove is not usually a huge task. Firefox is an exception, since its files are all within a single directory.  Although it's in /usr/local, it uses a directory structure normally reserved for apps in /opt.  

The only big problem is deciding whether the files you remove are needed by other programs.  You often see this with libraries ($PREFIX/lib), so i tend to leave libs alone unless I'm absolutely sure they are not needed by other programs.

Posted by dangeosan on Dec. 15 2005,04:28
yeah i really like the idea of DSL Customization, so editor, browser only one. and i can add more program to it
Posted by bokaroseani on Dec. 24 2005,18:53
Yes, I agree to the idea of being able to easily remove some programs to make DSL even smaller. I just use Firefox on my DSL system and have downloaded quite a few extensions for the same. I can do without the editors and RDesktop and Xpaint etc. It would be nice if I can remove these applications. I use Live CD and run it from my 128MB RAM using the cheatcode "toram". If I can remaster the live CD without the applications I dont use, I can make better use of my RAM.
Posted by linuxwebguy on Dec. 27 2005,18:01
I totally agree with a stripped-down DSL.  The DSL core could be console utilities, X, etc, and you could add everything else in as extra packages.  Maybe a more modular system.
Posted by cbagger01 on Dec. 27 2005,18:54
Using the DSL remastering process mentioned in these forums (search for keyword remastering), it should be possible to make a stripped down version of DSL yourself.

Have fun!

Posted by AwPhuch on Dec. 27 2005,19:42
Quote (linuxwebguy @ Dec. 27 2005,13:01)
I totally agree with a stripped-down DSL.  The DSL core could be console utilities, X, etc, and you could add everything else in as extra packages.  Maybe a more modular system.

We have tried this...discussed it...beat our heads on rocks...it aint gonna happen

Brian
AwPhuch

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