Change of applications
Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: Change of applications
started by: Thulemanden
Posted by Thulemanden on July 11 2006,20:26
Remove Firefox, Midnight Commander and Lynx,Make Opera a MyDSL item.
Remove all editor but Beaver.
Remove XMMS as clients for DSL hardly use it for multimedia.
Add Abiword&Gnumeric, remove TED&SIAG.
Posted by kerry on July 11 2006,21:01
DSL has more user's than just you, alot of people use that other stuff. on the flip side we have asked for a DSL bare that can be added too via the dsl extentions so people can add exactly what they want.but we haven't heard anything about it yet.
Posted by Thulemanden on July 12 2006,05:12
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Thanks; I didn't know that. It cleared everything up.
Posted by mikshaw on July 12 2006,05:59
There was a huge debate about whether or not to add Firefox in the first place, and there are still threads being created on one side or the other fairly frequently. The decision to include it was at least partially because there is no other open source browser available which supports anywhere near as much of the multitudes of web protocols, plugins, and scripts as Firefox, while still remaining small and fast enough to be included in DSL.Midnight Commander has also been debated, and was for a very brief time removed from DSL, with much negative feedback. The bottom line is that mc has become a fundamental part of a linux system, and is used more frequently than most other apps by many people.
Lynx does not exist in DSL.
Opera is already a mydsl item, and has been for a while. Check the uci section, or testing.
I can't disagree with you about the usefulness of Xmms in my personal life, as I hardly ever use it, but i don't agree with your reason "clients for DSL hardly use it for multimedia". DSL is intended to be a general-purpose desktop. One of the most common uses for a home desktop is multimedia.
I have no opinion of the last two apps....i don't use word processors, and have used a spreadsheet only a few times in my life.
Posted by Thulemanden on July 12 2006,21:12
Yes, change is difficult to achieve. ;-) The first argument is alwauys: 'no change needed'. I guess we would still be on the stoneage level with that philosoophy ;-)As DSL is supposedly built for resource weak hardware, it really isn't a combination suited for average desktop use IMHO.
I see the biggest prize being running a low powered machine as a web server (and for email). < http://83.92.35.50 > later www.opaj.info 233mHz, 2GB, 128mb, Compaq Armada 7770DMT 1997 labtop.
No offense intended.
Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on July 12 2006,22:37
I'm currently using DSL as a desktop, and I use xmms quite a lot, and mplayer.Also, if you want these changes for a personal need, you could always remaster DSL yourself too.
Posted by drogoman on July 24 2006,04:47
I do agree with you Thulemanden DSL works in a weak hardware but not enought fast, and the apps inside the distro are heavy for old hardware, DSL focus to be small but not fast.
Posted by davide on July 24 2006,07:58
I want to stress that you can remaster your OWN dsl flavour. that's the point. make it slimmer and faster, if you need so. You CAN do it. With other distros you cannot. That's enought flexibility, in my humble opinion.and also..no firefox no internet. dillo is for theorical discussions. When it comes to buy an item on ebay or a flight ticket..you need firefox. Be it big or not.
;)
Posted by anam on July 25 2006,11:46
| Quote (Thulemanden @ July 12 2006,17:12) |
| I see the biggest prize being running a low powered machine as a web server (and for email). < http://83.92.35.50 > later www.opaj.info 233mHz, 2GB, 128mb, Compaq Armada 7770DMT 1997 labtop. |
Funnily enough at work we are running an old PII motherboard of a USB stick as a ruby based testing server, for a total cost of 50 UKP. I've used junk laptops to form temporary internet cafes for various functions too.
Then at home I have a really ancient compaq p100 that runs as (very slow) but useable desktop, so useable in fact that papers to academic journals have been submitted from it. A more upto date laptop, became my main home machine whilst moving house, allowing me to keepp on top of things.
So what am I saying ?
Well to throw my 2c into the hat, I'd welcome DSL bare as it would make life easier at times, but I'd want the full plug in & go system too.
And Xmms I use it every night to stream music from my debian based server to the laptop which is wherever I'm working at the time
Posted by brianw on July 25 2006,15:11
DSL on a pII 266 compaq armada 96M ram beats windows (any version) for speed and functionality as a desktop hands down. Windows doesn't even come close. Fluxbox is required for most internet use (don't know about opera haven't used it for a long time) unless you want to vist basic pages you could use lynx for (I use dillo sometimes if I just want to shut down my freesco router).
You would be hard pressed to find any windowing environment that goes faster on older machines. On machines like that you are limited to linux as server/cli setup or dos.
On my laptop windows 95/98/xp won't even recognize many pcmcia cards (automaticly recognized in DSL) even after searching for hours for drivers and trying to get them installed.
So DSL as a desktop is the best alternative (unless you want to go to basic linux or something like that)
DSL is like a mars bar, craves the hunger (for a desktop on older machines).
Posted by sankarv on Aug. 02 2006,08:40
So far the developers are trying to accomodate more apps to the constrained sized iso. It actually means that DSL is getting better. The requirement is major for some of the apps which we cannot neglect without a proper replacement.
Posted by evilbstrd666 on Aug. 06 2006,01:52
Doesn't run well on old hardware?I have used it on a PII, and it was as fast as a PIII running XP, in terms of booting and such.
I have used it on VMWare under Windows, and it ran as fast as Windows.
I am using it right now on my PIII, and it is the fastest computer here for webbrowsing and word processing, even faster than that shiny new Dell my grandfather has.
I've played with many other small live-CD distros, and this is, IMHO, the fastest, easiest, and most configureable one I have seen.
Don't like it? Don't use it. There is a reason why there are so many distros - they tailor them to different needs....