i nee help smugling a bibleForum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions Topic: i nee help smugling a bible started by: williamrobinsonb Posted by williamrobinsonb on Oct. 30 2006,07:06
I need to hide a mandarin html bible in a dsl destro to give to a missionary friend going to china that wont get him killed by leaveing a trace and may be posibly hidden behind something like a game program or DVDDsl is perfect because it wouldn't leave a trace on a windows box and gives full html functionality and can be copied on a mini disk from an iso Please help Ok time for a lesson It is not illegal for an American to take a Bible out of the country due to the congress shall make no law forbidding religion clause 1 Yes you can get imprisoned and shot if you are a Chinese citizen for distributing a bible that hasten been edited by and approved by the Chinese government. They just edit the charge to say you are a smuggler involved in subverting the will of the people a traitor or a rapist. Usually they just call you a rapist and then intimidate some girl into sighing a trumped up affidavit. 2 windows has a bad habit of making copies of anything with text over a certain size and hiding it in a dos file using Meta keys in its path that cannot be seen, windows spies on you this is why just making imbedded files is a bad idea ,windows makes copies of text wherever it is. 3 Linux dose not make hidden files that unless you boot in dos and know the path you cant delete them like in windows and dam small Linux doesnt leave a trace at all when the pc is rebooted. Pull the plug break the disk and you have no evidence against you. Look im not asking you if it is moral or legal Im asking for a copy of dam small iso with a Chinese non edited html bible embedded in an encrypted file that you can boot the computer extract the file and read it without leaving a trace on the pc Posted by Thulemanden on Oct. 31 2006,18:10
I suggest giving him or her Encyclopedia Britannica instead.
Posted by mikshaw on Oct. 31 2006,18:47
This is the weirdest spam ....ever.Point 1: People are not "killed" for owning bibles in China. At most they are jailed for distributing them without state approval. Point 2: Software can be downloaded. Wouldn't that be easier? Point 3: Why DSL? It just adds unnecessary overhead when you could instead embed the software in an image file or other binary. There is very little "trace" of opened text files, and what little there is can easily be removed from the system. Posted by clacker on Oct. 31 2006,20:18
There is even an extension for dsl for the < king james html bible. > why not just make a tar.gz of your html directory? Change its filename to libnotung.so (or something with "lib" plus something and ending in ".so") and put it into the /usr/lib directory of a remaster and burn the new CD. Or call it something else harmless and uninteresting like spool.menu. When you boot the remaster, then copy /usr/lib/libnotung.so to the /home/dsl directory and change the name to whatever.tgz and uncompress.tar -czvf myfiles.tgz /home/dsl/mydirectory tar -xzvf myfiles.tgz Posted by humpty on Nov. 02 2006,10:13
what you are suggesting could be illegal. you may not like it but at least respect the laws of other countries.
Posted by williamrobinsonb on Nov. 02 2006,14:09
Ok time for a lessonIt is not illegal for an American to take a Bible out of the country due to the congress shall make no law forbidding religion clause 1 Yes you can get imprisoned and shot if you are a Chinese citizen for distributing a bible that hasten been edited by and approved by the Chinese government. They just edit the charge to say you are a smuggler involved in subverting the will of the people a traitor or a rapist. Usually they just call you a rapist and then intimidate some girl into sighing a trumped up affidavit. 2 windows has a bad habit of making copies of anything with text over a certain size and hiding it in a dos file using Meta keys in its path that cannot be seen, windows spies on you this is why just making imbedded files is a bad idea ,windows makes copies of text wherever it is. 3 Linux dose not make hidden files that unless you boot in dos and know the path you cant delete them like in windows and dam small Linux doesnt leave a trace at all when the pc is rebooted. Pull the plug break the disk and you have no evidence against you. Look im not asking you if it is moral or legal Im asking for a copy of dam small iso with a Chinese non edited html bible embedded in an encrypted file that you can boot the computer extract the file and read it without leaving a trace on the pc Posted by humpty on Nov. 02 2006,19:23
well then why mention the bible? I would have happily have toldyou numerous ways to do it. but letting the cat out the bag is like asking 'how do you make this bomb so i can hide it in your living room?' you come in here expecting everyone is sympathetic to the bible carriers . gee, "thank god" there's at least one country that doesn't put up with it. Posted by kerry on Nov. 02 2006,22:19
Why do they need a bible? A bible is just a book, your faith is in your heart and all that crap. Thankfully i'm a atheist.You sure your not one of them, scoping site's to block? Posted by nickelplated on Nov. 03 2006,07:11
what if you believe that freedom of information is an inherent right and not a priveledge given by the state? why respect the law if the law doesn't respect you? Posted by mikshaw on Nov. 03 2006,14:56
While I've been an advocate of civil disobedience for a number of years, there are limits to its effectiveness and limits to when it's actually appropriate. If you're in a situation where you may be jailed or killed, you must consider whether or not the action is worth the punishment. In this age where any information can be obtained through "pipes" ;o) is it really worth the risk physically transporting the information yourself? Use encrypted email or other coded message to either send the data or an address to where it can be found online. I still don't think this thread has anything to do with DSL. Posted by nickelplated on Nov. 03 2006,18:58
Oh, I agree. I'm just arguing from a purely philosophical standpoint that when a government no longer respects its populace as free individuals with inherent rights, that its laws should no longer be considered valid. In fact I'm pretty sure that a statement very similar to this is in the opening part of the Declaration Of Indepedence.But yeah, there's no reason why this person would need to bring in a bible. He could easily use the Tor extension to view it anonymously on the net without ever needing to fear chinese reprisal. I try my best to maintain the extension specifically for instances such as this and it works great, no trace of what you were doing is on the HDD after you cut the power. Posted by williamrobinsonb on Nov. 04 2006,17:05
There is no such thing as an anonymous extension on Chinese hosted web provider.The point is to keep everything off the web using a totally secure OS That can be copied and distributed. Even if you dont believe in God you have to admit that Christianity is a religion of freedom and equality while the humanistic religion of communism promotes harsh divisions based on class. It is realization that "we are all created free and equal and have not evolved unequally", that removes the motivation for war and allows everyone to reach their greatest potential. Dam small Linux is a powerful information tool, a stable and reliable OS, and could be used to bring the seeds of equality, freedom, and love to a nation that is suppressed economically and religiously. Christianity threatens the state sponsored religions that do not express equality just like damn small Linux threatens the bondages of using windows or os2. both OSes that have hidden code that watchdogs and monitor you. Just ask law enforcement. The birth of freedom always begins in secrecy with the powers that be suppressing it because they are afraid of it. I hate quoting the bible on a website devoted to Linux but As a man's fear is, so is his wrath. Linux creators and users are belittled and threatened with lawsuits for not conforming to the status quo because they won't surrender their rights and their code. The power of the big OS companies say shame on you for existing or thinking you are relevant. To all that is Linux The GNU is the bible, the law, and the hope of it's freedom. To the Christian communists in Red China, the bible that they suffer and risk their lives to read and distribute is the hope of freedon and their children's future. Would you give GNU to Microsoft to edit? What if you had no choice? They are in the same situation with the Bible except, their bible did get edited and they cannot say Jesus out loud in there churches or take there children inside them. Those who believe in GNU's right to exist and Lynux's right to exist should understand the right for a bible to be freely read and distributed without beading neutered by the government. I didn't realize that this would divert to wild ranting of religious philosophical blather. I just needed help embedding a mandarin html bible in a Dam Small Linux destro. Even though it is inappropriate and I had no intention of having this kind of discourse My Chinese Christian friends still need it and would greatly appreciate it. If they get caught distributing the bibles they have they will be persecuted and disgraced and possibly killed. They are going to continue to distribute the bibles even if we don;t give them a better way of doing it. I will figure it out somehow. With or without help But Dam Small Linux Looks like the best way to get it done and when I do I will post it on the web This discussions is totally inappropriate for this site and I will no longer respond to comments no matter how self rightious or condescending they may be and I apologize for the extent that my plea for help on this forum has unnecessarily diverted the focus of the forum that was designed solely for the purpose of discussing suggestions related to improving this already great operating system. Respectfully William Posted by Winter Knight on Nov. 04 2006,21:02
God is good! And now back to the technical stuff.William, loop-aes is a program that allows you to create an encrypted partition on a hard drive. A loop-aes extension is available in the repository. Here is a link for its instructions: < http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README > As for putting an encrypted file on the DSL CD, you need to learn two things. One, how to use aes-pipe to create encrypted files. The other is how to remaster a Knoppix or DSL CD. Here are links for those: < http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/aespipe.README > < http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Knoppix_Remastering_Howto > The weakness of putting it on a hard drive is that you need a hard drive. However, you won't be able to distinguish the partition from an unformatted partition (I think that is true. If you use truecrypt instead of loop-aes, however, this is definitely true). If you put it on the DSL CD, you will have a blatant file on the CD. A file that no one can read, and if anyone ever inspects the CD, they will ask questions. If the Chinese government is anything like I've been hearing, they will demand to know the key, and will jail/kill you if you don't provide it. If you still want to store the file on a CD, there is probably a way to put it into, and later retrieve from, unallocated sectors. I don't really know how to do that though. Posted by kerry on Nov. 05 2006,09:52
Vlva la revolution! Go for it man it's your right.
Posted by Jason W on Nov. 24 2006,00:00
William, drop me a line.
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