Firestarter or LOKKIT .dsl

Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: Firestarter or LOKKIT .dsl
started by: AwPhuch

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 14 2004,21:01

Can we get a easy to configure and use firewall application such as < FIRESTARTER > OR < LOKKIT > that will work in conjunction with the IPTABLES (why was it removed from Linux ill never understand) .dsl that gui has in the MyDSL repository?

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by Rapidweather on Oct. 14 2004,23:08

Firestarter requires a lot of GNOME libraries, I believe. I have tried to put it on SuSE 6.3, which does have KDE but almost no GNOME, and it didn't work.
I have used Firestarter on Redhat 9, and on Mandrake 8. Lots of fun watching the
hits on the firewall. Probably, then, to make it run on DSL, the .dsl for it would have to have all the necessary GNOME stuff.
Would be nice to be able to download an extension for Firestarter.
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Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 15 2004,02:35

I have been able to run firestarter as a .dsl file..

The issue is that the program wants to write a good many
things to /root, which seems to not want to be part of the ramdisk.

I was able to place a dir called /ramdisk/root and symlink a
dir /root to the /ramdisk/root , then it would run..

What this actually does for the filesystem I am not sure yet.

For a HDInstall, this is probably NOT an issue..
But WHO wants to run a HDInstall?

73
ke4nt

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 15 2004,16:39

Quote (ke4nt1 @ Oct. 14 2004,22:35)

I have been able to run firestarter as a .dsl file..

For a HDInstall, this is probably NOT an issue..
But WHO wants to run a HDInstall?

73
ke4nt

umm...thats all I do....alot of my older hardware (compaq LTE 5300) has a busted CDROM, so I have to use a PCMCIA CDROM, so I have to do the copy KNOPPIX to win98 parition and use a boot floppy, if I didnt have that prob I would be ok!!

Or was that a joke?

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 15 2004,17:56

What you have is commonly named a "poorman's" install..

They are great, and I use them frequently on different systems..

It's faster than reading from CD,
while giving you all the options and benefits of a liveCD system..

I was jokingly refering to a true HDInstall ..
While I don't use them, for slower or ram challenged systems, they work better..

I prefer all the benefits that come with the liveCD/poorman's systems.

My #1 would be the " Reboot Factor" ..
I trash my system daily, trying different hardware, testing extensions,
building extensions from various sources and repositories..
( I enjoy grabbing stuff from the "experimental" and "third party" repositories. )
Sometimes I add the kernel sources or the gcc and make utilities when it is
required to work from a source or work with a build ..etc..

It's SO NICE to be able to reboot, restore from backup, and have
all my personal settings and favorite programs right where I left them,
and confident of WHAT is installed on my system when I start trashing it again !

My #2 would be the " Source Factor " ..
Where I can use any number of sources to bootup my system.
Like you do with your "CD copy to HD" poorman's install ,
I also like to run from CF, or USBkey, HD, CD, CDRW, DVD..
anywhere where I can get DSL to find the /KNOPPIX folder ..
Likewise with the location of my backups and apps/extensions ..

My #3 would be the " Options Factor "
It's SO NICE to be able to bootup with different options "on the fly" ,
without editing lilo.conf, rerunning lilo, etc.. etc..
I frequently pick from several partitions for my "restore=" options,
my "mydsl=" locations, my "fromhd=" options, to give me various
groups of extensions and different setups/desktops/menus for a
unique need I may have.
So, myDSL is truly MY DSL , depending on my needs, mood, requirements, etc..
Sometimes, like when testing new extensions, I really need to test them from
a pristine environment, others with a pristine env + dsl-dpkg or gnu-utils added.
Othertimes, like when I'm making a screenshot of an app, or giving a curious
newb an eyeful of DSL, I'll go for my "eye candy" version, that I have on
another partition, with it's own backup..
It's nice to be able to choose any these from bootup..

It is true that I have a HDInstall in my systems as well,
since testing new DSL pre-releases in a HDInstall environment is necessary.

But they are typicaly "fresh installs" , since I can't be sure that the last
app or extension I just installed had libs in it that my next test may require..
I won't see the app scream for it if I left it in there from my last test session.
Again, the beauty of My #1 presides....

So, yes and no is my answer to you, AwPhuch..
I was "joking" , but I do prefer the power and flexibility of myDSL
and the bootup options of DSL live, over the speed and more
normal install method of running completely from the HDinstall .
I used to think that HDInstalls were the way-to-go, since all the other distros
were ran that way, and that the "liveCD" was just a "demo-mode" to get
a taste of how it would run. No More..

I run other distros on some of my computers.
I keep up with fedora core, AGNULA/DeMuDi, and some of the other
smaller distros like DSL..
But each day, I find myself right here in myDSL .. Home-Schweet-Home...

73
ke4nt

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 15 2004,21:49

No I have a full HD install..

I had to put the KNOPPIX dir and boot dir on my win98 partition and then make a ext2 partition after it...thus I have a full harddrive install...

the iptables.dsl works beautifully but I would like to see a better method to have a "personal firewall" .dsl built in...otherwise DSL might be as insecure as a M$ box without it!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 17 2004,04:02

I have "thrown" together a firewall using the rc.firewall setup with the
latest copy of iptables from apt-get..

Not exactly gui-friendly, but beats writing your own iptables setup files.

Give it a go, and feedback..

73
ke4nt

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 18 2004,17:44

Quote (ke4nt1 @ Oct. 17 2004,00:02)

Dir ess Dir (from Major Payne)

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 20 2004,17:21

Quote (ke4nt1 @ Oct. 17 2004,00:02)

Tested...worked good...no crashes

< http://awphuch2000.dyndns.org:1079/linux....all.jpg >

Nice easy to use and safe stateful firewall!!

just need to add /etc/init.d/rc.firewall to /etc/rc5.d/S99bootlocal for it to autoboot when DSL starts

I believe that this was a sucessful test!!!!!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 20 2004,20:40

Thanks for the feedback, AwPhuch..

.. it helps a lot ..

73
ke4nt

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 20 2004,20:52

Not a prob bud

Just PM me with packages to test if you like...I have a VirtualPC window and can test and break with no problems...makes it easy to rebuild and whatnot...

Oh just want to let you know the wmlaptop.dsl doesnt work...it twitches and closes out on my testbox...am I missing something?

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 20 2004,21:28

No,

I have had 3 or 4 similar responses from others ..

I will look into rebuilding/replacing/dumping it..

TODO

73
ke4nt

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 22 2004,19:25

so is the rcfirewall.dsl a "tested" module or still undecided??

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 14 2005,16:01

Hey kent,

Have you re-considered trying to make a < FIRESTARTER > mydsl package...

It would be nice to have a "GUI" firewall..but I know for a fact the rc.firewall.dsl is champion!

OOH found a new ones
< GUARDDOG > even has a nice gui and stuff!
< Guidedog > Router version of guarddog?
< FIREFLIER >
< gShieldConf >
< Knetfilter >
< A_basic_firewall_configuration_suitable_for_a_workstation > I recommend this reading for anyone and everyone new to linux and its firewall capabilities
< A_basic_firewall_configuration_suitable_for_a_gateway/nat > Ditto!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by schonning on Jan. 02 2006,22:17

I would also welcome if anyone took the time and created a Firestarter package.