Would you wear a DSL-T Shirt??


Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: Would you wear a DSL-T Shirt??
started by: monkymind

Posted by monkymind on Aug. 22 2004,11:39
Here's some graphics "might work on a Tshirt!" :D

(If anyone does make one - let me know how it turns out or send me a photo.)

Updated Pics Feb 2005





Cheers
rob

Posted by DonttPanic on Aug. 22 2004,19:02
a dsl tshirt's a cool idea, but i dont know.. i just dont really care for these designs. that's just my opinion. unfortunately, im not very creative, so i have no better ideas for designs. if anyone else has an idea for a tshirt graphic, post it.
Posted by ke4nt1 on Aug. 22 2004,19:19
I like the design on the damnsmalllinux index page,
with the debian and knoppix logos in grey, and the DSL Logo in full color..
This size would work well for a shirt..

I want a bumper sticker  !! ( BIG TYME )
I want a baseball cap  !!
I want a koozie  !!
I want a mousepad  !!
I want a ball-point pen  !!
I want a Hi-Res desktop background  !!
I want a DSL notepad !!
I want DSL underroos too !!  ( wait ...err no.. )   :D

73
ke4nt

Posted by TyphoonMentat on Aug. 22 2004,21:21
A DSL notepad? Well, there's SciTE :p
Posted by monkymind on Aug. 22 2004,23:42
Oh well! I said they were leftover graphic idea  :p

Actually the second one kinda looks like something you find on a coffee cup .......hmmmm

Interestingly ... now the tshirt idea is in my head - I really want one!!

Anyway - enough diversions, time to get back to cleaning up HD and killing more data  :angry:

Posted by AwPhuch on Aug. 23 2004,21:37
Well we need some graphics designers to get off thier heinys and bust us out some smoking graphics!!!!!!!!!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by monkymind on Aug. 24 2004,01:51
I've reworked one of the above ideas as a small "over the heart" design for a black tshirt.
If it turns out to be tshirt printable - I'll wear it till something better (or official) comes along. :)
(Think I'll use it as a mini cd/rw case insert too)



Cheers
rob

PS Here's a < 500x500 SVG version > (made in Inkscape) feel free to resize it, recolour, improve or just reuse any elements.
I'm off to the Dentist  ???

Posted by ke4nt1 on Aug. 24 2004,02:19
Good Work..!

I'll need a couple of XL's and a couple of 4X's

It would look good on the back of the shirt with a large pic.
Then maybe the words "www.damnsmalllinux.org" over the pocket

:D

73
ke4nt

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Aug. 24 2004,04:35
Quote (monkymind @ Aug. 23 2004,20:51)

:O  :O  :O  :O :O

teh sweet. that would look great embroidered on a polo, over the pocket.

-J.P.
SaidinUnleashed

Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 24 2004,09:17
BUMPERSTICKER!!!
I've been after one of the "I brake for penguins" ones for ages now, but no-one seems to sell them anymore:(

Personally, I prefer the cute little penguin from the "simple" theme background - is that debian's, or just a generic "baby" of tux?  Of course I still like tux, but we ARE talking "damn small" here, and "baby tux" is kinda cuter...

I think you'd drop the "www" from the web address for shirts.  It's kinda getting redundant nowadays, and is a pain to say  (anyone else ever wonder why the hell they chose the only letter in the alphabet with more than one sylable??!)???

Posted by davide on Aug. 24 2004,12:43
1 vote for the baby tux T-Shirt.
it's nice, elegant-looking (not too geek-like), and it's the real graphical sign of the distro, I think. When I think of DSL, I think of little tux.
:)

Posted by ripcrd6 on Aug. 24 2004,15:36
I like the second image in monkymind's first post and also his new image he posted on the 23rd.  Maybe the revised image on the front of a t-shirt and the MyDSL image on the back.  Or the revised image embroidered on a black or navy polo shirt.  That would be the shiz-nit.  :p :p
Posted by renegade on Aug. 24 2004,16:03
me and a few others are starting a small t-shirt business soon, we could do some designs and put them up here, if the response was good we could make same and put them on our site? :)

PS. If only the forum admin would sort out the registration problem  :angry:

Posted by Alisdair Kelly on Aug. 24 2004,16:36
[QUOTE]I'll need a couple of XL's and a couple of 4X's


:p unfortunately so would I. I like the third design over the first two.

Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 24 2004,21:48
Ooh, I just thought of a great one for a shirt:

"Is that a penguin in your pocket?"

:p

With baby tux beside it, and a small "damnsmalllinux.org" beneath.
Or a little baby tux and "damnsmalllinux.org" under.
Will work up some graphics later today, if I get around to it.


PS.  Bumpersticker:  POWERED BY DAMN SMALL PENGUINS   :p

Posted by LaminatedKitten on Aug. 25 2004,04:18
any of you guys tried cafepress.com ? they'll make you shirts and stuff
Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Aug. 25 2004,04:47
Quote (RoGuE_StreaK @ Aug. 24 2004,16:48)
Ooh, I just thought of a great one for a shirt:

"Is that a penguin in your pocket?"

:p

With baby tux beside it, and a small "damnsmalllinux.org" beneath.
Or a little baby tux and "damnsmalllinux.org" under.
Will work up some graphics later today, if I get around to it.


PS.  Bumpersticker:  POWERED BY DAMN SMALL PENGUINS   :p

ZOMG!!!!!11!

I would so buy one of those!

Especially the POWERED BY DAMN SMALL PENGUINS bumpersticker. except it would go on the case to my comp.

-J.P.
SaidinUnleashed

Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 25 2004,10:00
Here are some that I very quickly mocked up:

Back Only:


Front and Back version:
Front:

Back:

Posted by mpie on Aug. 25 2004,10:04
Quote (RoGuE_StreaK @ Aug. 25 2004,06:00)
Here are some that I very quickly mocked up:

Back Only:


Front and Back version:
Front:

Back:

Now that's nifty.............
Posted by monkymind on Aug. 26 2004,07:27
Quote (RoGuE_StreaK @ Aug. 25 2004,20:00)
Here are some that I very quickly mocked up:

Nice work and that's definitely a cute penguin!

I really have to tweak the one I'm using to look a little friendlier. At the moment he's kinda looking more and more like a Olympic superheavyweight weightlifter. :D

My current minimal DSL pocket comet wallpaper (centred on a black background of course).


Cheers
rob

Posted by davide on Aug. 26 2004,10:56
hey.. you're doing a great job!...it seems like there will be nice T-shirts out there soon..:cool:
Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 26 2004,12:16
OK, I spent my multimedia tute today creating vector versions in Illustrator (I know, not very GNU - hey, is anyone working on a DSL of Sodipodi?), made a few changes.
Two versions of the same thing, one for black shirts, one for white, modified so you only need two or three colours / screens.  Because of the nature of the text, the one for black is simpler, and I could probably even make an attempt at hand-making screens for it.

SWF's (flash) can be found at:
< http://www.baudalign.com/pics/DSL_all_black.swf >
< http://www.baudalign.com/pics/DSL_all_white.swf >

I have the proper illustrator files and pdfs if we want to go anywhere with it (ie. getting computer cut screens etc) (the swfs don't seem to show up as cleanly as the "proper" versions, but they're a hell of a lot smaller, only around 10k each, untouched)

Obviously, above the dividing line is the "front" design, below is the "back".  Front for a "heart" logo, back for the upper back, standard places...

PS. Rob (monkymind), where in Aus are you? (noticed the dodo address).  I'm Brisbane.

PPS.  Just had a thought - could get screenprinters in various countries to make the shirts, so most people can get "local" shipping rates, then feed say $5 (Aus) to John and co. from each sale.  Hopefully make and sell decent shirts for under $20 Aus ($15 US), otherwise it's pushing the boundaries of how much people would pay for a t-shirt...

Posted by ripcrd6 on Aug. 26 2004,13:31
Rogue: In your all white .swf, the "i" in Linux looks like an "l" (ell).  You might want to revise that.

I like the "Is that a penguin in your pocket?" graphics.  That would look great on a bumper sticker or a plain white or black t-shirt.  I also still like my original picks for the front and back with themore complicated graphics.
back: < http://members.dodo.com.au/~monkymind/img/dsl-tshirt-square.gif >
front: < http://members.dodo.com.au/~monkymind/img/tshirt-dsl-black.gif >

So, did anyone check out cafepress (cafeshops) yet?   Imagine a DamnSmall thong or boxers.  I don't think anyone would buy the boxers.  It's like saying "Damn Small Weiner inside."
:p

Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 26 2004,22:29
Damnit, just wrote a longwinded reply, and wasn't signed in!!  d'oh!

The swf's aren't anywhere near as clean and crisp as the proper ai files, just did an export from illustrator without doing any post-editing, was just to give some sort of illustration.  I've printed out several copies of the proper files on a colour laser, and it's as clean and sharp as you could possibly hope for.  But the pdf's weighed in at around 200K each...

Yeah, checked out cafepress, good system in theory, but when you check out the base prices, to me you are going to end up charging around $20US + shipping to get a few bucks profit, which is too much to ask for a basic t-shirt.
Which is also why I've gone for the simplified 2 or 3 colour screens instead of the full-graphic printing - you could make your own screens.

Posted by DonttPanic on Aug. 27 2004,23:21
I like RoGuE_StreaK's version as a tshirt.
Posted by monkymind on Aug. 28 2004,05:19
Quote (RoGuE_StreaK @ Aug. 26 2004,22:16)

PPS.  Just had a thought - could get screenprinters in various countries to make the shirts, so most people can get "local" shipping rates, then feed say $5 (Aus) to John and co. from each sale.  Hopefully make and sell decent shirts for under $20 Aus ($15 US), otherwise it's pushing the boundaries of how much people would pay for a t-shirt...


Think I was a bit naive when I originally decided to play around with making a DSL tshirt. ???

The cost of making a few shirts with more than one or two colours costs a lot more than I'd realised. I suspect at this stage - the money would be more useful going into the development of DSL rather than on printing costs.

So - I'm going to focus on some downloadable print-it-yourself designs for mini and biz-card cds. This should be an easy (and inexpensive) way to help pass around and promote DSL.

FWIW if you get sufficient numbers to make a batch of tshirts - I'll take one :D

Quote (RoGuE_StreaK @ Aug. 26 2004,22:16)

PS. Rob (monkymind), where in Aus are you? (noticed the dodo address).  I'm Brisbane.


Yep! Highgate Hill, Brissy. You?

Cheers
rob

Posted by ke4nt1 on Aug. 28 2004,06:11
Some 300 DPI copies would really help with scaling, resizing, etc..
Makes for better print than the usual 72 DPI computer screen res ...

73
ke4nt

Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 28 2004,07:48
The swf's and the original ai files are vector, so you can rescale to your heart's content.  Actually, just checked out the swf's again, if you start zooming in it becomes a lot clearer - the originals were basically designed at around 300dpi size, so the swf's probably don't look right unless you zoom right in...  not sure to what size though, couldn't find details of what the original pixel sizing should be...

G'day Rob, I'm in Kenmore (west of Indro).  If I make up some shirts, will be able to drop some off to ya!  :D   Just drove through Highgate Hill yesterday!

Posted by DonttPanic on Aug. 28 2004,19:48
What about something that can be printed on something that can be ironed onto a tshirt? Then, a person just has to go out and get the iron-on stuff.
Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Aug. 29 2004,02:58
A few things with the iron-ons:
1.  You can't print white.  So if you wanted white text for your black shirt, you're screwed.  (Only just this second thought of that problem)
2.  In my (limited) experience, the iron-ons don't look very good, and don't last very long - they start cracking up after a few washes.  But this was a few years ago, so maybe they've improved since then.

But there's nothing stopping you from trying!:p

But I guess also part of the point of the shirt is to generate some funds for John and co. (the other parts of course being to increase exposure of the distro, and to proudly proclaim to  the world "it's chic to be geek!" (or something to that effect...))

Posted by keepitUnreal on Aug. 29 2004,15:51
Quote (LaminatedKitten @ Aug. 25 2004,00:18)
any of you guys tried cafepress.com ? they'll make you shirts and stuff

Just what I was thinking. Not only will they make t-shirts, but journals, hats, backpacks, lunchboxes, stickers, mugs, license plate frames, and much more.

Posted by raysr on Aug. 29 2004,21:37
Yeah, I hate to say "Dubya"!
Posted by ripcrd6 on Aug. 30 2004,16:18
If Cafe Press is too expensive, maybe ThinkGeek would carry them cheaper or with a higher amount to go to the DamnSmall developers.  It might not be bad to ask both places if they offer better rates to opensource projects than the standard rate.  They could send the funds to John's paypal account or something.  Then links to the shirts, wherever you get them, could be added to the DSL store.  I'd even be happy with a black shirt with a one color screen print of  "DamnSmallLinux.org" on the front.  The more complicated ones would be nice though.

Does anyone have time to negotiate with Cafe Press and ThinkGeek?  Are we allowed to talk on behalf of John Andrews and the project?

Posted by ripcrd6 on Aug. 30 2004,16:42
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/base_prices.aspx
The above is a list of base prices for items.  If we opened a damnsmall store there, you mark the shirts up by $5-6 and have that go to John.  The base price for a basic t-shirt is $8.99 or $9 (add $3 for 2x, 3x, 4x), add $5 and you are at $14 + shipping.  Looks easy to setup too.  You get one front graphic on white t-shirt.  Graphic must be at least 200 pixels tall and in jpg or gif format.  Graphic comes out kind of small, limited to 2.25 inches tall.  The more expensive t-shirt is $13.99 and allows you front and back, but the back grapic looks small also.  Maybe if we got a graphic with "DamnSmallLinux.org  50MB of Penguin Power", that  could go on the back.
< http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/help/help_image_sizes.aspx >  is a link to the image sizes allowed for each product.  the recommended images are .png format at 300dpi for better clarity.

I'm going to go ahead and contact ThinkGeek.  What the hell.  I recently saw that they were doing shirts for PVP and Penny Arcade.  Email sent with details of what we have avail at CafePress.  Think Geek might be able to do 2 graphics instead of one and on black T instead of white for the same money.

Posted by AwPhuch on Dec. 29 2004,19:12
Any headway on this at all??

The CafePress is the best route...only problem is they get pricey

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by Z038 on Jan. 02 2005,16:14
I think this is a great idea.  I'm sold on DSL.  With DSL installed on a pendrive or on a business card-sized CD, you really can have a penguin in your pocket.  

I'd definitely buy a couple of DSL t-shirts, a cap, and a bumper sticker.   I think one or two color printing on t-shirts would be fine, but I'd have no problem paying $25 or so for a fancy multi-screen version, especially with a good quality heavy weight cotton or cotton/hemp t-shirt.

Posted by petergunn on Jan. 02 2005,22:15
How about something simpler for those of us who spend most f their time in cube farms? Im thinking...

* DSL coffee cup - just a simple old ceramic mug, preferably cheap, say $3-5

* DSL penguin toy - dont have to be specially made, just buy regular penguin toys and slap DSL stickers on 'em, say $6-10

* "DSL Inside" laptop sticker, say $1

* DSL Tie (dark but not balck, with mini tux on end), say $10

IMHO things in the shop are too expensive. I mean $7 for a mini-CD ad $53 for a 128Mb pen drive? You can get 128Mb Pen drives on the net for $16 shipped.

Also, it would be nice if we could get cheaper shipping on mutiple items. I mean 3 mini-CDs for $10 shipped would seem a lot better than 1 for $7, and then I would have one for me, one for a spare, and one to give to someone else to try out.

Posted by clacker on Jan. 02 2005,22:44
Those are really nice ideas, but I believe you prices are a little low.  I was thinking it would be around $8 US to get 50-100 mugs made.  $10 for a custom tie seems a little low as well.  $25 for a heavy cotton tee in two colors?  Maybe, but they need to make money for the cause and your prices are lower than what they would pay for the materials.  I doubt they'd like loosing money on the merchandise as well as not making money on dsl.

I mean, hey, if I could make great stuff cheap, I'd be rich too.

If your going to make a shirt, is it a good idea to tie it to a trade show, and sell them there?  You could charge a little more, but your sales might be higher if the design was cool and served as a momento of the event.  Something like "The biggest 50 Meg linux distro at Linuxconn" or whatever it is.

Posted by petergunn on Jan. 03 2005,01:14
After a quick googling I found places like < http://www.discountmugs.com > that will print an 11 ounce white mug with a single color logo for $0.75/mug (for 75+ mugs). No need to go crazy with full 24bit color :-)
Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Jan. 03 2005,09:03
I'm currently trying to get my 3-colour version (white, black, and orange, for black or non-white shirts) ready for a test run, hopefully have some done in the next few weeks, unforseen problems excluded.
I think I could make them for maybe Aus$20 on decent shirts with say $3-5 going to John and co.  My theory was that if I can set the screen process up right, you could have DSLers printing them in various countries, so you can just find your closest country / state to save on international postage.  But it would be more a labour of love rather than a money-making thing, whoever prints them would only be able to take a couple of bucks per shirt max to still make the price acceptable.  I don't really want to have to hand-screen a few thousand of the suckers!

Posted by Fordi on Jan. 03 2005,15:05
I still like the one I made for MyDSL Maker with Nicholas Rougier's work:

Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 06 2005,00:58
It's just not quite right..
Sorta looks like an owl with a beak !...  :)

73
ke4nt

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Jan. 06 2005,03:58
Umm, ke4nt1, owls HAVE beaks...
Posted by green on Jan. 06 2005,04:45
I think I NEED a shirt, or something.......
Don't have time or cash to do anything to help the process but as soon as someone gets something going, I would gladly lay down a few bucks to get my hands on something. Please keep us updated !!!

Posted by ke4nt1 on Jan. 06 2005,07:41
SU, should I have said ' wide beak ' ?
and is it beaks or bills ? ( I've read both )

Either way, it is a nice pic ..
The whites around the eyes reminded me of an owl ..

73
ke4nt

Posted by KnightFire on Jan. 24 2005,08:24
Actually I like it...
change the "owl" back into a penguin and
"root@tty1[/]# Mine!" to a more "security correct" "dsl@box:~$ Mine!"
and I'd buy it! :)

Posted by Rocky1138 on Feb. 18 2005,07:23
I'd like to wear a DSL t-shirt, this thing is damn cool besides being damn small, but in my area, DSL is a thing we use to describe women that have d*ck sucking lips. [Angelina Jolie], so I'll never buy one if it prominently displays the letters DSL.
Posted by Patrick on Sep. 24 2005,19:27
Is this thread dead? I am proud to be a DSL user (for about a year now) and like to show it out..

I need: a DSL - t-shirt

or

A high resolution image of what John (Mr DSL?) would consider being THE DSL-logo.....

Posted by adssse on Sep. 25 2005,00:30
I agree, I have been waiting for some shirts to come out for a while now. I am a Comp. Sci. major and I am really surprised at how many people even in my computer classes still dont know about dsl. I think shirts would be a great way for more people to find out about dsl and from looking through this thread it looks like there is plenty of interest, plus I need another shirt :)
Posted by RoGuE_StreaK on Sep. 26 2005,09:20
I got sidetracked months ago, hopefully I might make some screens up shortly, if I get the time.
Posted by fartbarker on Sep. 26 2005,22:03
I would definately wear a dsl t-shirt!
Posted by WDef on Oct. 01 2005,14:26
Absolutely.  I'd wear matching jocks and sox as well.
Posted by lub997 on Oct. 02 2005,05:15
I would wear it proudly.
Posted by doobit on Oct. 05 2005,14:58
OK, so where can I wear a DSL T-shirt?
Posted by adssse on Oct. 06 2005,21:41
Just wondering there any official plans in the works to produce shirts? This seems like a popular topic.
Posted by Patrick on Oct. 13 2005,09:21
I am still hoping to get an "official" DLS logo-picture so that i can print my own t-shirt.......
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