official IBLS--Itty Bitty Linux Server thread

Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: **official IBLS--Itty Bitty Linux Server thread**
started by: ico2

Posted by ico2 on June 01 2005,17:42

Ok, i have finally got my act together and seriously begun work on DSL web server edition.
If a forum MOD would like to sticky this thread i would be grateful.
DSL Web Server Edition will have full LAMP and web admin interface and still be 50mb.
I will put together the guts of the web config interface (php) but someone else will need to do some snazzy html to make it look good.
currently i am installing all the software, and should have the basics of the configuration interface done in the next few days, as i said if anyone wants to volounteer to do the html portion of this i would be grateful.
Any suggestions for features and software to include will also be welcomed. once i release an ISO people can make modifications to it which will be included in the next version if they are good.

NOTE 1: i am basing this off the latest DSL iso, before modifying i booted it up to check it out and i am really impressed, it looks a lot better that 0.8 which was the last one i downloaded (stupid dialup).

NOTE 2: if the site admins would let me put my ISO on the site that would be great, otherwise i can host elsewhere. uploading it will be a problem, i have dialup with VERY slow upload speeds and 2 hour max connection time, so i will probably have to upload in chunks, this can be arranged nearer the release (soon).

anyway, gotta go now, cya

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,12:49

just to update: i had a 50mb working ISO with apache and php working and mysql installed but broken, accidentally messed everything up, started again, this time with apache2 and mysql and php all working now, waiting for iso to finish making to see size.

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,12:54

82mb so far, but i can get that down a lot further, i still have apt installed!!

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,13:50

64mb, with working LAMP, i am going to try out cramfs to see if i can make it any smaller.

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,14:05

cramfs makes a LARGER image, no good a all.

cutting some more junk out.

i want to be able to fit in PHPMYADMIN as well, all in 50mb, will take some work.

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,14:39

61mb and counting

Posted by Max on June 02 2005,15:00

I will be willing to do some testing when you get a version you have some confidence it.

Since it is going to be a DSL "server" I would see folks wanting to have things like samba, python/edna, qmail or other available in addition to LAMP.

My curiosity is peaked as to where you are going to store your data sets? web pages, database, etc...

Are you planning for a restore file like the current DSL?

I can envision a frugal install which autosaves and autoloads a restore file. The restore file could either contain ALL of your data (htm, php, db's) or the config could point to a partition that contains this data....

Any teasers as far as your design goals would be appreciated.

Good luck...let me know how I can assist...

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,15:23

max: This is a web server edition, i could not possibly fit in samba, i may do a fileserver version though

but not right now.
python would be great, but i am over the size limit as it is, i will have a try if i have any spare space, or else make an add-on package for it.

ico2

Posted by ico2 on June 02 2005,15:36

ok, making a third attempt now (messed up attempt 2 as well, but at least i now know not to delete that file!!!).

Posted by Max on June 02 2005,15:39

I think you should shoot for the 50mb web server version too...

I was just thinking that we could use the same DSL architecture to add .dsl's for some of the other apps depending on the end user's goals...

Personally, I'm looking for a replacement of my SME Server which was based on an old version of Red Hat. I'm more familiar with Debian (and DSL in particular from tinkering around with DSL since version .7) . I also simply love the idea of just being able to reboot and start from scratch when you goof something up.

Posted by AwPhuch on June 02 2005,16:02

Plus..with the sparked up intrerest in creating a "light" server, maybe someone could then start working on the other GP (general purpose) server..such as Samba, (...insert service here) distro that everyone is hoping for, a server with MyDSL plugins would rock!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by friedgold on June 02 2005,22:41

Quote (ico2 @ June 02 2005,09:50)

64mb, with working LAMP, i am going to try out cramfs to see if i can make it any smaller.

If you are looking for an alternative filesystem with higher compression you might want to investigate squashfs. However I doubt there would be any significant space saving and given the amount of effort a change would require I would suggest sticking with cloop.

With cloop make sure you are using the -b option with create_compressed_fs to enable the highest compression level - this will shave off a few megabytes.

Posted by isager on June 03 2005,13:13

Why not use webmin as the web interface? Is it too big?

It seems like there is no reason for reinventing the wheel...

Posted by ico2 on June 03 2005,14:24

ok, a few things to say.

firstly i now have a 53mb iso with apache and php working flawlessly and mysql nearly working, this can be reduced to about 47 easily.
secondly: webmin is very big indeed (or so it seemed (might have to check again)) i think it also has a gtk2 dep.

probably some more stuff i forgot, but for now thats it.

Posted by ico2 on June 03 2005,15:34

ok, trying to compress the knoppix image further with -b (gawd it is slow), also seeing if i can cut down webmin enough to go in it.

Posted by ico2 on June 03 2005,15:44

also: i think i may be able to fit python in. (crosses fingers)
then it will have LAMPPP (Linux Apache(2) Mysql Php Perl Python)

Posted by Guest on June 03 2005,16:27

The -b option for create_compressed_fs may give you a smaller image file, but with the penalty of a bit slower loading. This is normally okay for data, but may not be a good idea for executables unless you have a lot of memory available to allow the use of "toram" boot option. Compression is 12 times slower too (example, 15 minutes without -b becomes 3 hours with -b). On this, I'd suggest that you create prototypes without the -b first and target for 55MB (10% is the best savings I was able to get so far).

Posted by Ted on June 03 2005,16:37

Sorry, but isn't making DSL into a LAMP distro sort of silly? We have plenty of them already.

Posted by AwPhuch on June 03 2005,21:37

Quote (isager @ June 03 2005,09:13)

Why not use webmin as the web interface? Is it too big?

It seems like there is no reason for reinventing the wheel...

WEBMIN is light..you dont need a desktop especially if you are going to be running a webserver...

I use WEBMIN to manage my webserver and it works good, especially if you strip out all the useless garbage and modules that dont belong there. the RPM is 8.6meg, and you could remove tons of other stuff...namely the desktop crap..

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ico2 on June 03 2005,23:38

yep
i got webmin small enough eventually.
iso is still 54mb, but everything works.
also:
i made the scripts so that if there is not sufficient memory for mysql and apache then mysql is not run and can be started manually and monkey is used instead of apache. this means it will work on even the slowest of hardware.

Posted by AwPhuch on June 04 2005,00:05

Quote (ico2 @ June 03 2005,19:38)

So where is our test image??

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by Max on June 05 2005,02:30

I was going to ask the same thing...

Posted by jesseakc on June 07 2005,19:08

Me too! Can't wait to give it a go.

Posted by ico2 on June 09 2005,16:59

if john would like to email (ico2ico2_AT_gmail_DOT_com) or post here about putting the file somewhere, or else i can have it hosted elsewhere, either way could someone tell me, i cant do anything much until i get a reply one way or the other.

i now have a 50mb iso with everything, and i would like to put it somewhere, if someone could contact me asap.

thanks ico2

Posted by ravenray on June 09 2005,18:55

This is awesom!!! Will you be able to make a config file of some sort to have all you database and webpage on like a usb thumbdrive or hard drive?

Posted by ico2 on June 10 2005,15:13

yep, but it wont be in the first ISO, will have to wait a while for me to get round to that.

Posted by AwPhuch on June 13 2005,17:25

I will host, but it would be futile

Why not whip up a torrent..I would share that for sure man!

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by jesseakc on June 13 2005,17:44

Torrent works for me. I'll be happy to seed.

Jesse

Posted by ravenray on June 13 2005,21:40

Same here.

Posted by ico2 on June 15 2005,06:36

ok, *thinks*
i will upload it to the unix server at my school in parts, put them back together and then send them to people who want them from there.
how do people want the file sent to them?
it may be a day or 2 to get the iso uploaded.

ico2

Posted by ravenray on June 15 2005,14:12

I'll like it in one large iso format if that is ok to send. If someone knows of a public tracker we can use for a torrent file, that'll be great also.

Posted by jesseakc on June 15 2005,14:25

I would still like a torrent.

Jesse

Posted by Max on June 15 2005,17:06

What are the options?

You sending it to each of us individually might be quite a burden on your time....

Posted by AwPhuch on June 16 2005,01:05

Quote (ico2 @ June 15 2005,02:36)

Can you get a torrent going??

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by MrBear37 on June 16 2005,12:10

Greetigns all I

I would like to get a copy either sent to me.. ( seems rather silly to me.. or just have it hosted so we can download it somewhere ( better option for me).. I dont happen to have any of the torrent clients etc.. on my machines.

I usually use yahoo for e-mail, but possibly to a G-mail account would be better ?

Mark

Posted by NIck on June 16 2005,18:32

Hmm I want to try this out but no torrent should get it hosted as I think there would much interest in what you are doing.

Posted by ico2 on June 18 2005,22:09

Ok, this is the plan, tommorrow i am going to work on getting it all uploaded to school in pieces, then i will put it together and send it to someone who can start a torrent, then if as many people can download and host the torrent as possible then everything should work.

if someone could give their email address (need to be capable of recieving 50mb file) and start things off then that would be great.

i will see about the rest of the issues soon.

ico2

Posted by jesseakc on June 20 2005,15:44

did you have any luck with that ico?

Posted by ico2 on June 20 2005,16:00

yep, its now being hosted temporarily by ^thehatsrule^ (from irc), here's the url tp://dsl:dsl@hats.would.like2.servebeer.com/dslwse0.1.iso

to use it simply boot up, run netcardconfig and then you will be able to connect on port 80 to get web served and port 10000 for webmin interface.

it's not very polished, but it works ok (python is not 100% working)

ico2

Posted by ico2 on June 20 2005,16:02

if someone would like to make a torrent, that server is only 50kb upload.

Posted by Max on June 20 2005,16:08

ico2,
Can you post the checksum for your iso?

Posted by ico2 on June 20 2005,16:26

01f8f93c15b9ae244e6ae08b23ad05c2 dslwse0.1.iso

Posted by ico2 on June 20 2005,19:16

ok, fixed a whole lot of bugs and some other stuff, releasing new iso tommorrow.

Posted by jesseakc on June 20 2005,20:02

I'm looking forward to trying it out when I get home. You rock man.

What is so much better about Apache compaired to Monkey? I haven't tried it yet, but it looks like Monkey can do everything Apache can (php, MySQL, Perl). What else am I missing that Monkey does not support?

Jesse

Posted by ico2 on June 20 2005,20:39

http://thepacthq.net/hats/dsl/

here's the latest location.

also provided by ^thehatsrule^ (THANKS).

dslwse0.1.1 will be released tommorrow sometime.

Posted by AwPhuch on June 20 2005,21:20

I mirrored the iso as well...not as much BW..but its there if you need it

< http://awphuch2000.dyndns.org/linux....WSE_0.1 >

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by infree on June 21 2005,07:18

Thanks for the server-edition dsl, ico2!!

I've downloaded from < http://thepacthq.net/hats/dsl/ >
but can't login into webmin,
using : change_me / change_me ? failed login..

Posted by ico2 on June 21 2005,10:57

no.

use admin/change_me

the latest version with bug fixes will be released today, webmin is still a bit broken, but will fix that in 0.1.2.

iso being released today is 49.4MB, but my current iso (bit buggy) is down to 46MB without even using max compression, i am considering including ruby and a couple of other scripting languages in there to fill the space and make it as featureful as possible.

0.1.2 will hopefully be easier to set up (running netcardconfig on startup), fix a webmin bug, include modifications to the webmin backup module so you can back up stuff.

also: would someone else like to write a better demo page that tests php and mysql workyness.

Posted by ravenray on June 21 2005,17:30

Just tested this out. So I take it fluxbox has been taken out. No gui frontend.

Posted by ico2 on June 21 2005,20:21

no.

There is an ncurses menu for basic configuration in the latest, and webmin for anything more advanced

Posted by ico2 on June 23 2005,06:42

NEWS:

firstly i got rid of all the bugs and got the iso size down to around 45mb (so i can fit in stuff like ruby soon).
secondly i almost have the dialog based basic setup menu working.
thridly the project may be changing name, as john pointed out: dslwse should have its own identity and name. I was thinking about DSWS (damnsmallwebserver), what do other people reckon on the subject of naming.

Posted by ico2 on June 23 2005,16:13

also can some of the artistic types come up with a boot splash?

Posted by Max on June 23 2005,16:52

Using the term "Web" kindof locks down the future potential of the project....

DSS - DamnSmallServer
DSSP - DamnSmallServerProject
DSMS - DamnSmallMiniServer
DSPS - DamnSmallPersonalServer
DSSS - DamnSmallSimpleServer
DSFS - DamnSmallFastServer
DSLS - DamnSmallLinuxServer
DSDS - DamnSmallDependableServer
DSES - DamnSmallEasyServer
� � � � �DamnSmallExtensibleServer
� � � � �DamnSmallExtendableServer
DSLS - DamnSmallLiveServer
DSDES - DamnSmallDamnEasyServer
DSDQS - DamnSmallDamnQuickServer
DSSDQ - DamnSmallServerDamnQuick
DSIS - DamnSmallInstantServer
DSSIAJ - DamnSmallServerInAJiffy
DSSFA - DamnSmallServerForAll
DSFS - DamnSmallFreeServer
DSBS - DamnSmallBigServer

ok....I started to digress.....

I think my favorites are DSS, DSIS and DSLS

Posted by AwPhuch on June 23 2005,18:55

DSL-S is good

Where is that new version!? heh

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ico2 on June 23 2005,20:43

lol, john reckoned we should steer clear of using damnsmall in the name.

possible ideas and reasons why they are slightly poor:
lampix- already exists
minilamp- is the name of a lighting company
servix- embarrassingly close to cervix
miniserve- too close to miniserv
liteserv- already exists

dunno, any ideas anyone?
How about serve50, or 50serve? sounds too much like an ISP?

prehaps a poll is in order?

as for the new version, well, i burnt 0.1.1 to a cd, made a lot of bug fixes, never got round to burning again, 0.2.0 is not far off anyway.

Posted by clivesay on June 23 2005,21:07

icoserver

Posted by jesseakc on June 23 2005,22:04

How about IBS - Itty Bitty Server

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on June 23 2005,22:25

IBLS

Itty Bitty Linux Server

Could be pronounced "ibbliss".

Posted by jesseakc on June 24 2005,05:32

I'm with SaidnUnleashed on this one.

One vote for IBLS. Anyone else?

IBBLISS!!!!

Posted by John on June 24 2005,05:52

IBLS is good!

Posted by clacker on June 24 2005,12:36

I like IBLS too.

Posted by jesseakc on June 24 2005,14:50

would it be pronounced (eye)bliss or (i)bliss. I think I like (eye)bliss better.

Posted by ico2 on June 24 2005,15:35

ibls seems a very commonly used name,
INTERNET BUSINESS LAW SERVICES
Institute of Biomedical and Life Sciences

to name but a few LOL.

looks like we need to keep thinking

Posted by Max on June 24 2005,15:59

Ok..... so far we have one entry...

IBLS - Itty Bitty Linux Server

how about.....

ILS - Instant Linux Server
ELS - Entendable Linux Server
PLS - Portable Linux Server
MLS - Mobile Linux Server
VSLS - Very Small Linux Server
LLS - Lite Linux Server or Light Linux Server
LSL - Linux Server Light
CLS - Compressed Linux Server
SFLS - Small & Fast Linux Server
SLS - Simplified Linux Server or Simple Linux Server
LLS - Live Linux Server
BCLS - Biz Card Linux Server
WLS - Wallet Linux Server
PLS - Pocket Linux Server
PWLS - Pee Wee Linux Server
LLS - Little Linux Server
TLS - Tiny Linux Server
TWLS - Teeny Weeny Linux Server (suggested by my daughter

TTLS - Teeny Tiny Linux Server

Posted by jesseakc on June 24 2005,16:03

So what? �DSL also stands for Digital subscriber line but we still call Damn Small Linux, DSL.

Those companies have nothing to do with Linux or GNU. �I think IBLS would be a good name. �However, it is your distro, so it is up to you.

www.ibls.org is unregistered and so is www.ittybitty.org

Jesse

Edit: PS: Its alright to be Itty Bitty

Posted by Benjy on June 24 2005,23:55

Hi there - I've read through this topic and it doesn't look as though you have a definitive host for... whatever you decide to call this great dsl version!

I run my own server and host all manner of sites but they currently include things like the linux distro < gNOX > and the program MySlax (used to modify and add programs to the ISO's for Linux-Live based distros). I'd be happy to host any files and a site for this distro as I think it's too good an idea/creation to not be readily available.

My own site i s looking kindof mal-nourished at the moment (I'm in the middle of writing a CMS to replace the current Drupal powered site) but it is < www.bonsonno.name > (will be bonsonno.org when I finish sorting things out) - so everything I'm working on is juggling above my head!

I of course won't charge you for this (kind of defeats the object of Open Source really...) and can provide you with a subdomain before you decide on a name and get hold of a domain for it.

My email address is stressonthesky[at]gmail.com if you want to get in contact that way.

Hope to hear from you that I can help!

Cheers

Benjy

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on June 25 2005,04:57

DSL also stands for diesel fuel. >_> <_< ^_^

Posted by Seth on June 25 2005,06:13

hmmm how about

YASLSD - Yet Another Small Linux Server Distro
SYLSD - Small Yet a Linux Server Distro
MYSLSP - Maximal Yet Small Linux Server Project
ILSD - Ico2's Linux Server Distro
LSD - Linux Server Distro (i could not help my self ^_^)
MEYVSLSD - Maximaly Effective Yet Very Small Linux Server Distro
MySLSD - My Small Linux Server Distro
MyLSD - My Linux Server Distro (why even sugest this one? prolly cuase it works ^_^)

original no?

o well, just a diffrent line of thinking ^_^ (bigger more complex words)

Posted by jesseakc on June 25 2005,06:24

We can spend days going threw hundres of potential names. Ico, I think you should pick one and get a host. Benjy looks like a pretty good guy. You really can't beat free hosting and the server looks pretty fast. Let me know what you pick and I'll help out with the domain name. I'm also willing to design a site for your server until you can find someone better (not saying I'm bad or anything, just not the best in the world). There is a large demand out ther for a small server distro like the one you are working on and I think it could be a very good thing.

Thanks,
Jesse
PS: I'm still all about SU's idea "Itty Bitty Linux Server" Ibliss! It just roles off the toung... Say it with me I.. B.. L.. I.. S.. S..

Posted by Seth on June 25 2005,14:14

gah jesse's right, a billon names can be used, but iBliss sounds like a apple product ( shades of Ilife ? )

Posted by ico2 on June 25 2005,18:14

yeah, IBLS sounds like an apple thingy, also: the domain is taken

Posted by Benjy on June 25 2005,18:14

If someone can give me a name... ANY name - generic if necessary I will set it up!

Jesseakc - thanks! Though I am fairly proficient with HTML, php all that jazz so I can always help. I wrote the design for the site (well, I took the existing blog template and converted it for normal use then changed a lot of it! Making sure there was as many clovers as possible!)

Anywho - lemme know and I'll do all that I can for you - I'll setup a torrent to seed from the server if I can win the fight against freebsd and python (trying... oh so much - it ~just~ doesn't like me!)

Posted by ico2 on June 25 2005,19:10

Ok, thanks benjy, it may be a while before a name is agreed on (no longer than a day or two).

Posted by ico2 on June 25 2005,22:05

what about any of the following:
50LAMP
LAMP50

Posted by Seth on June 25 2005,22:22

hmmm LAMP50 sounds good........

Posted by ico2 on June 26 2005,11:46

ok, i will start a poll later with all the favourite names.

Posted by b1ackmai1er on June 26 2005,16:05

If you still mucking about with names, here's my 2c worth.

LS -DSL
Linux Server - Damn Small Linux
intentional pun on ls command

DSL WISE
Damn Small Linux Web/Internet Server Edition

DAMNLAMP
Self explanatory

DeiSeL
DSL Enhanced Internet Edition

regards b1m1

Posted by ico2 on June 26 2005,16:54

b1ackmai1er: we are trying to keep away from the dsl theme here LOL

Posted by mark_internet on June 26 2005,18:19

This sounds great.
I made a version of dsl with Lampp on it a while back.
I had the system boot from CD and then read the web pages from usb stick.
It worked fine. I used web pages with perl code included.
The one issue I found was after a few days of leaving the system on, the xwindows would lock up.
The web server was still active though.
I have presently been running the server and when not using x, I would turn it off.
I am in my 4th day and no issues.
I think my image was about 96meg though.:)

Posted by ico2 on June 26 2005,20:39

LOL
i have it about 46mb now including ruby as well, i intend to add mono for asp stuff

Posted by cbagger01 on June 27 2005,04:45

Does it lockup when you use the "xfbdev" Xserver, or the default "XVesa" one?

There have been some reports of a memory leak when using the XVesa server.

Also, a screensaver might kick in that requires pressing a key or moving the mouse to reactivate the video signal.

Posted by jesseakc on June 27 2005,16:22

I don't think its going to be GUI at all is it? My understanding is it is going to be command only and administration can take place remotely.

Correct me if I'm wrong
Jesse

Posted by ico2 on June 27 2005,17:36

Yep, you are right. no X!

Posted by AwPhuch on June 28 2005,03:40

50mWATT-Server
50megs Web Application:Tiny Technology - Server

TinyWS
Tiny Web Server

SIMA
Small Internet Media Application

LASER
Light Automated Server Edit by Remote

LEDs
Light Editable Dedicated - Server

MOSFET
Micro Optical Server-Fault Eradicating Topology

LIMOS Lee-mos
Linux Intergrated Machine Optimized Server

SIMON
Server Intergrated Machine Optimised Nano

ASCE (ask-key)
Autonomous Server CD Edition

MSCE (heh)
Micro Server CD Edition
M$user - Hey man you got your MCSE
Linux user - Sure do...right here in my pocket

MILES
Micro Internet Linux Edition Server

WHITEHOT
Web Host Integrated Tiny Edition Hotloadable Optical Technology

I dunno..just threw something out there

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by ico2 on June 28 2005,16:37

Ok, come up with a new idea for name, using femto (really small number, below micro, nano and pico)
femtoserv
femtolamp
femtoserve
femtoserver

Sounds quite good and nothing comes up in google for any of them (except femtoserver which has 3, but unrelated), i particularly like femtoserv or femtolamp.

Posted by benjy on June 28 2005,18:51

Sounds cool but don't you think femto... kind has shades of... well either trannies or women who bat for the other side?

Posted by jesseakc on June 28 2005,19:05

Femto sounds like some hygiene products (yuck!)... Or a company ran entirely by females (not that thats a bad thing, just might give people the wrong idea).

Jesse

Posted by ico2 on June 28 2005,21:15

Ok, i shall keep thinking

Posted by ico2 on June 29 2005,19:45

ok, the name is IBLS, got bored of waiting for ideas/comments.

will release new version soon, benjy: if you are still up for hosting the site, that is the name we will (unless anyone has a complaint about it) use. If someone wants to put themself forward for designing the site, please do, if you want to mirror the iso, please email me, if you already told me in irc or forums, note: i will have forgotten (terrible memory), so email please.

anything else should be directed at this thread, let the name-related thread fade into the past.

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on June 29 2005,20:29

(unreg'd still haha...) < http://ibls.tk/ > for now? unless theres gonna be a registration soon :P

trying url coding... < IBLS unofficial >

to add to it, ask me on irc

gogo ico2!

great work, tho i prefer icoserv ;p

Posted by Benjy on June 30 2005,00:24

Course I'm still up for it!

Hostname will be ibls.bonsonno.org, I could probably spare you ... 100gb transfer a month? If that needs to be higher just say and I'll raise it.

Drop me an email so I can actually set it up (need email address, desired username etc). If at any point you do get hold of the domain name you want then let me know and I'll send you the necessary nameservers so you can associate it with my server.

Email addy is stressonthesky[at]gmail[dot]com.

Posted by ico2 on June 30 2005,06:36

Thanks, emailed you

Posted by ico2 on June 30 2005,18:26

OK, the site is up (not serving anything until i get around to it (tommorrow)).

Thanks ever-so-much benjy for the free hosting

Posted by Benjy on July 01 2005,00:05

Hey no worries mate. If I can geta least a simple version of my CMS written - I'll do a quick and simple layout (or if someone has one already?) I'll set that up and since you're hosted by me I can easily update various bits of it... as and when they're written!

If you've something else lined up... no worries!

Tis just an idea...

Posted by ico2 on July 01 2005,06:49

Thanks, if someone could do something layoutwise that would be great, benjy: if you have time, you can set the layout up.

Also: if you have time, do you know how to set up a PHPBB or similar forum?

Posted by Eddlandos on July 01 2005,08:07

hmm why not do something like the linux from stratch project did with their sites all looked the same just hosted in different parts of the world

Posted by Nassho on July 01 2005,16:33

Quote (ico2 @ July 01 2005,02:49)

Thanks, if someone could do something layoutwise that would be great, benjy: if you have time, you can set the layout up.

Also: if you have time, do you know how to set up a PHPBB or similar forum?

I can install PHPBB. Just need the FTP host, user and pass.
I can also install Mambo CMS, no need to design a new site.

Good Job Ico.

Posted by Benjy on July 01 2005,16:40

Forum is a piece of cake - you want phpbb? Or do you have any other preference?

Talking about the layout - there needs to be something which you can associate IBLS with - an icon, a mascot - something!

Is it Itsy Bitsy or Itty Bitty Linux server by the way?

Only thing I think of is "the itsy bitsy spider"... but that's a bit naff?

Or do you want some totally generic logo - like a leaf; a star; some kind of abstract shape?

And lastly - do you want to keep any ties with DSL regarding logo's but also colour schemes? Or are you after something completely different?

Posted by benjy on July 01 2005,16:46

Mambo??? But whyyyyyyyyy???

All the current available templates are nasty! But more than that - mambo is a lot of bloat and unneccessay bits for what is in essence a very simple site.

I'd recommend using just a simple news script for the majority of the site and letting the forum do most of the work - support sections, registered users, admin only sections etc etc.

But it's your site Ico2 - it's up to you!

Oh yeah and I finally registered now!

Oh and you probably know Nasho that you'd need 2 sql db's to setup phpbb and mambo - not just ftp.

Posted by Nassho on July 01 2005,16:59

You�re right Benji.
We can just build a simple site.
I�ve just registered ibls.com.ar . This registration will take 5 days.
If Ico want to use it, just need your DNS.

Nassho

Posted by ico2 on July 01 2005,18:16

Sure, we can use ibls.com.ar, how long did you register for? just thinking: when the project gets bigger (in a few years maybe) we should go for .org, com.ar is great for our purposes now.
PHPBB would be nice, unless anyone has any disagreements with that?
As for design: all i need is a simple template done, there will only be need for a couple of pages (excluding the forums), so anything more than simple html is overkill.
As for a logo, when the forums are up i will post a contest for designing one.

Posted by Nassho on July 01 2005,19:50

I have to renew it annualy, but in Argentina it�s free of charge, so use it or not is the same for me.
If you prefer another diomain, we can use it for a mirror. I can host up to 20GB monthly.

Posted by ico2 on July 01 2005,20:39

We will stay with .com.ar for the time being, thanks, pming you in a sec with dns information

Posted by flatloop on July 01 2005,23:39

I think you should have called it LAMPlite...

I'm sorry if I missed it in the posts, but where is it's final resting place? I'm reeeeeeally interested in getting my hands on a copy.

Posted by flatloop on July 01 2005,23:45

Quote (Guest @ July 01 2005,19:39)

I think you should have called it LAMPlite...

I'm sorry if I missed it in the posts, but where is it's final resting place? I'm reeeeeeally interested in getting my hands on a copy.

sorry fogot to login.

Posted by John on July 02 2005,02:52

Ico2, I updated the thread title so that it more accurately reflects what is now happening in it.

Posted by Eddlandos on July 02 2005,07:35

http://cgi.eddland.plus.com/ baba

ico just tell me how to create you an admin account it's yours ;)
I'm ok at setting it up i've used it a tiny bit but not enough to make more than one admin account

Posted by ico2 on July 02 2005,10:30

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL,

thanks to john for the topic change

thanks to edd for the BB, i will figure how to get it working and then link to it from the official site

Posted by Eddlandos on July 02 2005,10:37

ico2 you hopefully should have admin access now email me or talk on here cos I may have to hop on a train to london soon not g8 a different gig

Posted by ico2 on July 02 2005,11:19

http://cgi.eddland.plus.com/index.php

VISIT THE OFFICIAL FORUMS AT THE LINK ABOVE

Posted by BADASSBLACK on July 02 2005,12:31

YOU GOIN' DOWN MOTHA'!

Posted by ico2 on July 02 2005,13:34

EH?

Posted by ico2 on July 02 2005,21:26

Also: visit irc channel on irc.freenode.net #ibls

Posted by ico2 on July 03 2005,18:07

WOOOOOOOOO we now have the domain www.ibls.org, kindly donated by rattler414

Posted by yyyc514 on Sep. 02 2005,15:34

bump... progress?

Posted by gmanpsycho on Nov. 01 2005,03:43

I have downloaded the current iso and am having login issues. I can not seem to login from the 'box login:" prompt. I have read through the thread and have tried the "admin / change_me" bit but to no availe. Did I miss something???

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Nov. 01 2005,04:21

Please visit the IBLS site ot their IRC channel for issues with IBLS.

~J.P.