Thunderbird & Abiword
Forum: DSL Ideas and Suggestions
Topic: Thunderbird & Abiword
started by: meo
Posted by meo on April 07 2004,19:52
DSL is a great distro. Very portable with all you need really. I certainly like the installscript for Firefox and would appreciate the same for Thunderbird and Abiword if it is possible. It would add a lot to the completeness of DSL. Good luck with the further development of this sleek distro!Best wishes,
meo
Posted by meo on April 24 2004,13:39
I have been checking (as always) different distros and feather linux now has a bunch of different install-scripts. I think this is a good idea (especially for newbies that want to make a HD-install and easily get new functions without tha hazzle of checking dependencies) and it would not cost hardly any space on the live-cd. Maybe the scripts from feather will work in DSL too. Does anyone know???Just a thought,
meo
Posted by woverin on April 24 2004,14:15
Don't forget to check plugins from Flonix distro.(Damn small-based)They have a bunch of useful appz.
www.flonix.com/plugins
Posted by roberts on April 24 2004,15:10
Damn Small Linux has always had a slant towards the liveCD user. These download scripts, as pointed out, only help the hard drive installed users. The liveCD users are not going to download everytime. And when, the distro changes so quickly, and with so many new enhancements, users have to keep re-doing the hard drive install and then all those downloads. Doesn't seem pracitical to me. Some users even remaster DSL adding in their apps. But then again, a new release of DSL is just around the corner. Then what redo all that work again. There has to be a better way. There is. Stay tuned.... The next release of Damn Small Linux is just around the corner.
Posted by hasty on April 24 2004,18:06
Why don't we have a page of scripts which we can download when we want.Something we can cut & paste into scite and use when needed.
Just a few more k's saved from the CD.
Posted by meo on April 30 2004,12:20
Well, first of all I just want to make clear that my suggestion was just that: a suggestion. I think DSL is one of the best distros of them all. I have tried dozens of them during quite a few years and this is the one that stands out as the one that supports my hardware absolutely best. I have a 3+ year old laptop and it works great. I use DSL both as live-cd and HD-install. I think many users are doing the same. So install-scripts would be of great help to enhance the HD-install. That's all. Thank's for a really good distro!!!Keep on having fun,
meo
Posted by roberts on April 30 2004,17:31
Everyone's suggestions are appreciated. John and I try to enhance DSL so that everyone can benefit. The challenge is to try to keep DSL consistent for both liveCD and hard drive installed systems. We don't want to become another Debian installer. Also it becomes hard to answer questions and support the system if these become too divergent. As I stated above about my reservations about download scripts being more of a benefit to hard drive installations. And then causing frustrations when there is a new release. Re-downloading and re-setting up the system. Maybe fun the first time, but gets old quick. Besides what about the liveCD users? After analysing these issues, I think you will like what we have come up with. Wait till you see the next release. Another first from DSL. Advantage liveCD.
Posted by nucpc on April 30 2004,18:57
roberts; that's a very tantalizing post.......I'm desperate to make some comment and know I should,and on the whole, will, wait until the release, but on one point;
any remastering or scripts I've added to my personal copies of DSL were purely to get back to
running live and I have to (politely) dispute the "......more of a benefit to HD installations" view.
I removed my HD install months ago, just as soon as I could remaster DSL competently. Nothing beats
running live and nothing, for me, beats the education you get from being able to fully mess around with
the system (live & fearlessly) and if you fry everything, well, you're only 30 seconds from being back
in business.....a million miles from "just another Debian install platform" and something I'm eternally
grateful to you and John for.
So, I guess in common with many, I'll be looking forward to that next release desperately. All the best.
Posted by roberts on April 30 2004,21:32
Point taken. I should have included "advantage" to those who remaster. However the issue remains, when a new version of DSL comes out...Please note, we are not taking away any current capability. You will always be able to do a hard drive install, or remaster your custom version. The educational value of DSL cannot be overstated. We are only trying to let a wider base of users partake in the "advantage".
Let me also say, thanks to the users here on the fourms. The information sharing that occurs here daily is very impessive. It is from these posts that inspire John and I to keep going. Many posts here have been incorporated into DSL making it better with each new release. And some posts challenge us with a way to implement them.
I have posted these messages, not to tease or tantailze. But because I did not want one to think we were being unresponive to these requests. We are only trying to come up with a solution. Now I hope that I have not over-hyped this, and hope that everyone will like what we have come up with.
Posted by clivesay on April 30 2004,23:03
I follow what's going on with DSL and Feather every day. Both groups continue to do great things. Each new release is very exciting!! I love how each distro strives to keep things small and simple yet packed with great stuff!!Even "peanut" linux is at a gig right now!! They'll need a name change soon!
Keep up the great work!
Posted by nucpc on May 01 2004,19:47
Roberts; reading you last post was great, the work you, John and all contributors put in is incredible. CanI please assure you, though I guess you know, DSL has the magical "mystery factor" that turns working
with it into something that's not actually work. It's educational value is therefore off the scale......
Carrying it in you pocket might be "cool", recovering old hardware is superbly commendable, but something
that effortlesly encourages people to learn with it is a thing of great value indeed. I'm probably too close
to the "educational" side, working in a university, but we like to think in these cases,
advantage everyone.
All the best.
Posted by Rapidweather on May 02 2004,20:27
About the remaster bunch:I've been busy doing a remaster of DSL, and here is the "getting started guide" that I have with it:
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< http://www.angelfire.com/ms/telegram/getting_started.html >
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Unfortunately, I have no plans to put this remaster up for download.
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Work lately has centered around getting a nice "logo.16" made, still not
perfect. (The one that comes with luit linux is better).
Also, I have a lot of the visualization plugins for XMMS, and a built in web
page that has links to some good Mp3 sites for use with XMMS.
I do have a second window manager, besides the very-good fluxbox,
and it is called "Light Weight Window Manager" for use with machines with
limited memory. LW has no menu, so one has to know how to start applications
from the command line in an rxvt.
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At least from all of this, I get a feel for what the developers of DSL have to go through to bring the distribution to everyone.
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Posted by TyphoonMentat on May 03 2004,08:07
Rapidweather - if you want a second light window manager, I'd suggest evilwm over LWM.
Posted by hasty on May 03 2004,14:43
Have you considered ratpoison ?Not joking
