Oh how the mighty have falllen!

Forum: Cool Things
Topic: Oh how the mighty have falllen!
started by: SaidinUnleashed

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Sep. 25 2005,19:27
Most of you know of my long-standing love affair with iRiver, and their Linux-friendly product line.

Well, the honeymoon is over.

Their latest product line does not play nice with Linux, or even OSX. That's right. iRiver has crossed over to the dark side.

I finally got a chance to play with my bro's h10 20gb, and here's a short review.

Interface and onboard software

While the interface is not as neat as the h3x0 series, it's still better than the h1x0 series, and easy to navigate thanks to the touch-sensitive scroll pad. But the equalizer is even more simplistic than the one on the h3x0. Not a good thing. So, 10/10 for style, but minus a couple points for bad thinkin'.  No international radio support either. Another downside.

Score - 6/10

Required Software

The h10 requires you to install the spyware-ridden, DRM plagued Windows Media Player 10. It also requires special drivers, and doesn't allow you to store data files on its hard disk. baaaaad.

Score - 1/10

Sound Quality

The sound quality seems a bit tinny, though still better than most of Rio's offerings, and far better than most low-to-midrange flash players. Kinda disappointing for a hdd-based player, especially compared to most of iRiver's product line, and the iPod. The bass lacks a decent punch, and the high-end seems to tweeter a bit. (I use a pair of Sony noise-canceling, studio-style headphones for all of my sound tests. Cost about $20 at most stores, and have the equalizer disabled.) Still better than average.

Score - 7/10

Included Stuff

The USB connection cable is no longer the usb to mini-usb like before. It uses a proprietary connection. But this time, they at least made the cable they give you sturdy and well made. The earbuds, while better than the iPod's included 'buds, are still crap compared to even a cheap set of real phones, like my Sonys. Toss 'em. Also includes a cheap polymer/rubber case that does pretty well to protect the body from scratches, but nothing for the screen. At least you can get to the controls without taking it out of the case, unlike the h3x0.

Score - 8/10

Media Type Compatibility

The h10 20gb supports only the mp3 and wma (both normal and those evil DRM'd ones) formats! What happened to ogg support? asf? avi movies? flac? Even left out wav support! Somebody must have made a mistake here. No one relly cares about being able to look at jpegs (no bitmap images, though!) or read txt files. We want media support, damnit! One point for each supported format.

Score - 4/10


iRiver's latest hdd-based player is a huge letdown, both for non-Windows users, and for music junkies in general. We want more compatibility, not less. More supported media formats, not fewer. And decerased sound quality? Why would you do that?

Seems like iRiver is heading the way of Creative with their players. Less friendly to users, more friendly to large monopolizing industries and their racketeering schemes than to their customers. Sad really. Maybe they'll come to their senses with the 2006-7 series stuff.

Overall Score - 5/10

An average player with far below average compatibility. Get one of the hxxx players instead, if you can find one.


Posted by green on Sep. 25 2005,22:03
...tsk, tsk, tsk.

This IS sad, indeed.

This just fuels my conspiracy ideals all the more.

Posted by dsln00b on Sep. 29 2005,10:52
Any pictures  ??? , anyway good review


Posted by chickenman on Oct. 27 2005,16:58
OK, so i just accedentally bought an H10 -as i would have NEVER bought it after reading this review. I asked the sales person if it had linux support, he admitted to being a retarded jar of beans when he told me that I could take it back if it didnt.

Well i am damn well taking it back, even if I did get it cheep because of sale prices. Not only is it limited to Window$ XP but you MUST use the "Window$ media player" to even access the files. I wont be teathered to a windows operating system, leatalone the pathetically bad media player reuired for the use.

I sent Iriver an angry email, but it dosent matter now anyway -they arn't getting at my money for being such window$ sellouts. "Playsforsure" ING SUCKS, sorry for the bad language but its the scum of the earth and surrounding area, it is a microcosm of everything that is wrong with micro$oft as a whole and a key example of how profit-based Iriver's current product line is becoming. Well I wont stand for it, and I hope none of you will either.

Shame on you Iriver.

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