SAVING what you've downloaded to usb thumb drive
Forum: DSL Tips and Tricks
Topic: SAVING what you've downloaded to usb thumb drive
started by: logicmaster2003
Posted by logicmaster2003 on Dec. 07 2005,04:25
Hi sorry I'm a newbie.. I have just ONE question.. please look at the sequence..1) I've boot-up DSL via LIVE CD (ok)
2) I've downloaded GAIM , Ymessanger, Doom, Skype (ok)
3) I've clicked on "System" => "Backup/Restore", then typed in "sda1" then clicked on "BACKUP" button to save (ok)
now if I reboot my machine, will all those downloaded application be loaded off my usb thumbdrive (sda1) ?? or will they be GONE and I have to re-download each time ??
and when I clicked on. "Apps" => "Tools" => "Make myDSL CD remaster". It says "this script is required to be run in "toram" mode" HOW DO I GET THERE ??
Thanks for your help guys !!
Posted by mikshaw on Dec. 07 2005,05:27
Your mydsl applications will not be restored by using the backup/restore feature. That feature is mainly for saving configuration files and personal data files. If you copy the mydsl packages into the root (the bottom level) of sda1 they should be automatically installed when you reboot....that is as long as sda1 is where DSL is installed (also listed as /cdrom).Toram is a boot option that loads KNOPPIX into RAM. It is enabled by adding "toram" or "dsl toram" to your boot options...lilo.conf or menu.lst depending on whether you use lilo or grub. The configuration file should be in /mnt/sda1/boot or /cdrom/boot
Posted by logicmaster 2 0 0 3 on Dec. 12 2005,14:40
hi milkshaw thank you so much 
sorry i forgot to keep track of this thread ! sorry for the delay have a good work week
Posted by roberts on Dec. 12 2005,16:39
Most of this is explained in the Getting Started document.Most users just close it and don't read it.
Additional applications, MyDSL, extensions, are LARGE, and there are STATIC. It would make no sense to have them in the backup each and every time you shutdown. Because of these simple facts the MyDSL application "packages" are separate. For persistenacy they must be:
1. Stored on a hard drive partition or other extenal device.
They may be autoreloaded via the boot time option of mydsl=hdaX
2. or if they are placed in the root directory of the boot device, i.e., where the KNOPPIX directory resides, they will be automatically loaded at boot time.
If you make an optional directory alongside the KNOPPIX directory or on the partition where the other MyDSL extensions are stored, and place some of the extensions into this optional directory then a menu will be created upon boot to make the extensions selectable for on demand loading.
If you are running a frugal install, as root copy those extensions that you wish to keep to /cdrom. Yes, /cdrom is writeable as root on any frugal type install.
The DSL system is designed primarily as a liveCD based system or an emulation thereof, i.e., frugal, or poorman's install. That is the reason the extensions by default are downloaded into the /tmp directory.
As we have many new users, they come from the perspective of the old way of using an operating system. They get a cdrom and immediately want to install. We offer that method as well, but it is not the focus of any of the developers of DSL. The whole idea of DSL is to push the abilities of using liveCD/frugal type installs.
HTH
Posted by logicmaster2003 on Dec. 12 2005,16:56
hi boss..somehow i can't find the "getting started" document or thread. Could you kindly link me to that page ? I'll then print it out for future reference. Thanks and have a good day
Posted by roberts on Dec. 12 2005,17:02
It appears when the desktop is displayed, i.e., it is iin .xinitrcor
Click the Dillo desktop icon
or
Select Dillo or Help from the system menu.
Posted by logicmaster2003 on Dec. 12 2005,19:18
Thank you so much I'm printing them out now while reading em and i was able to get it going ! Thank you so much
Posted by mlstein on Dec. 15 2005,02:35
All very well; but in the USB-ZIP format there's no extra room in the partition in which KNOPPIX is located....What does one do then?
Michael Steinberg
Posted by roberts on Dec. 15 2005,03:46
Use the remaining second partition sda2If one has used the standard USB-ZIP instal scripts then the syslinux.cfg should already be setup with the following two boot options restore=sda2 and mydsl=sda2
Now after having read "Getting Started" it should make sense.
Want to change the boot options in a USB-ZIP install?
As root edit /cdrom/syslinux.cfg
Posted by mlstein on Dec. 15 2005,14:06
Thanks. (I'm a different person than the one who needed the "getting started" script.) I assume I need root privileges to write to sda2; sdo emelfm?I'd actually kludged a fix in the mean time: I used parted in a different machine to resize the partitions. Works fine so far.
Michael Steinberg
Posted by blackwolf on Dec. 21 2005,20:51
Hello all. I'm trying to copy DSL packages into /cdrom so that they will run automatically on next boot but it says: read-only file system. Neither does sudo in X nor /etc/init.d/mkwriteable work. I'm booting DSL from USB Flash. I think i will make a folder somewhere else and using the backup/restore method, i will at least be able to have these files allways, and then install them. I was just wondering why this is happening?Thank you.
Posted by roberts on Dec. 21 2005,23:27
If you use the standard install scripts provided by DSL then your system should be booting with an option of frugal. This would remount your pendrive (/cdrom) with root writeable privileges.
So be sure to copy the files as user root.
Posted by blackwolf on Dec. 23 2005,20:09
Thank you for your reply. In my case though, in which i haven't got DSL Live CD, and no hd either, i don't think i can use the standard script to install DSL to usb flash via the DSL running already on my usb flash. However, indeed what you said is correct. DSL is being mounted as read-only. Therefore, i think that i can modify fstab as root and give full access, save it with backup/restore ? and in next boot, have DSL mounted with read-write-execute.