Frugal vs Normal Install?

Forum: HD Install
Topic: Frugal vs Normal Install?
started by: metro

Posted by metro on July 30 2004,19:24

Hello!

I'm newbie with DSL! :$
But i'm using a week ago and i think that is GREAT!

It detects and setups my WLAN PCMCIA card with no poblems...

Ok, i have a huge doubt. What is a Frugal install? differences with normal hd Install?

Thks a lot!

Posted by roberts on July 30 2004,20:14

Normall install is what you are most used to. But even normal install has several options, standard and enhanced. single and mult-user.

Frugal, is like running the cdrom image on a device, hard drive or CF. Some people were copying the KNOPPIX folder and then using a boot floppy to find KNOPPIX to boot up the compressed image.

Frugal, which is based on Terry Gary "Silent PC" script, is customized for DSL. It only requires 54MB to run DSL compressed with all sorts of startup options, it uses lilo to boot, so no boot floppy needed. It was really made for older computers and CF which might be drive space challenged.

Posted by metro on July 30 2004,21:58

Oh Great!
Thks for the info.

So, i need a normal Install.

With a normal Install, i have a Linux-like normal installs runing. right?
So i can change things and settings and when i reboot the changes stays?

How do i install some app that comes on a .deb file using apt-get?
I can do it with dpkg -i but then i have to mess with the dependencies...

Thks againa for your time and respones.

PD: With more time i know DSL, it likes me much more.

Posted by libretto on July 30 2004,22:53

If you search the forums theres threads on using apt-get to search for and install programs from the debian archives. ALso, another popular method is the 'Synaptic' program, this is a GUI front end, make package searches even and I believe a bit easier on determining dependicies.

Hope this helps!

P.S.: Don't worry about being a noob (I'm one as well), we all started somewhere :laugh:

Posted by metro on July 31 2004,06:52

thks a lot...
i'll go to check and try...

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on July 31 2004,23:40

is it possible to do a frugal install to a USB pen drive?

i created a primary linux partition on it and when i run frugal_instal.sh, it says that it only works reliably on hda.

if it were possible to frugal install to my usb, i wouldn't have to trick syslinux into working on it every new version.

Posted by roberts on Aug. 01 2004,00:51

The frugal script uses lilo. The USB pendrives use syslinux. I am currently looking into making a new script for USB with features similar to frugal.

Posted by metro on Aug. 01 2004,04:32

Thks for the answers guys!

I'm having a great time with the DSL on my laptop.
But i'd had little problems.

And, when i'm trying to install some app (like g++) says that depends on other and other other, etc And on the end depends on one that needs to be upgraded (libc6) and the apt-get can't upgrade it.

I'm doing this cause i like to install the wmwifi dockapp (http://wmwifi.digitalssg.net/) and, in fact, any app that i need to compile.

The error (aparently casues by fault of g++) is:

Quote

checking how to run the C preprocessor... /lib/cpp
configure: error: C preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check

When i did the ./configure

OK
Luckly, wmwifi comes too on a .deb file so i installed really easy (the 0.2 version cause the 0.4 display Err).
And i'm very happy with my DSL system.

But... any clue to solve the cpp problem?

Another newb question.
Its too hard/easy to remastering the distro? So i can burn a .iso of the system that i'm runing rith now? It would be REALLY GREAT if i would can do that.

Thks again!

PD: Sorry if i miss the right words, my english it's on the way!!

Posted by roberts on Aug. 01 2004,06:34

You should next learn how to use the search button on the forum page. This has been answered many times.

1. from system menu Apps->Tools->Enable Apt
2. from the desktop icon myDSL grabit gnu-utils.dsl
3. edit /etc/apt/sources.list
change stable to unstable
4. apt-get update

Now your apt-get install make gcc g++ will work

Posted by metro on Aug. 01 2004,06:48

Thks, i'll check the next time...
Sorry, i was envolved on the emtion of the solutions and the results....

Posted by roberts on Aug. 01 2004,16:18

No problem, were here to help. Just wanted to pass along the search button is there too.

Sometimes you might need both.

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Aug. 03 2004,05:40

hey, roberts, while you're writing scripts, can you also make one to install (frugal) to a CF card. the current one also give the "only on hd" message.

blargh.

-J.P.
SaidinUnleashed