if (pP(XP=hda1)) + (extP(DSL=hda5 + Swap=hda6))


Forum: HD Install
Topic: if (pP(XP=hda1)) + (extP(DSL=hda5 + Swap=hda6))
started by: robertbas

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 01 2006,10:28
hi All,

if (pP(XP=hda1)) + (extP(DSL=hda5 + Swap=hda6)) to give dsl the best functionallity and most flexible permissions, what is the rite fs for win to use

I keep getting 'hda1/ not found' at the bottom of the boot scripts

Posted by mikshaw on Feb. 01 2006,14:49
Code doesn't really help in asking a clear question.
Please state what exactly you are attempting to do, what you currently are doing in an attempt to accomplish your task, what *specific* error message(s) you receive....plus anything else you think might be related to your problem.

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 02 2006,01:38
Hi Mik, thanks for your reply.

I guess i just wanted to know what is the most dsl complianmt filesystem for XP if DSL and XP are been installed on the same drive?

shud i ntfs or fat the XP partition?

tia

Posted by mikshaw on Feb. 02 2006,03:14
Neither will work....DSL will boot only on ext2 or ext3 filesystem from what I've seen so far (maybe fat16...but i don't know why anyone would want to run anything other than DOS on it), and Windows won't boot on a linux filesystem.  So you're left with 2 options...either run DSL embedded inside of Windows, or create two partitions.
The second option is the most flexible, in my opinion, but if you want to be able to write to the windows drive from within DSL, the Windows partition should be fat32.
If you run embedded DSL, I don't think it matters what filesystem you use...you won't be able to mount the host partition anyway.

No matter what you do, you will never have compatable file permissions...Windows doesn't know squat about file security.

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 02 2006,06:04
thanks again Mik ...

I've have been creating & installing xp & dsl to partitions hda1 fat for xp and hda2 ext for dsl. After installing xp & befor installing dsl I redo hda2 with cfidsk and mke2fs, then I do a s install of dsl.

after "setting up bootloader' starts I get (words to the effect)
cant write to ...proc etc.etc
cant find ...proc etc.etc
cant mount /hda1 etc.etc
cant find /hda1 etc.etc

Sorry about the non-verbatin of the errors but after many many sessions of trawling dsI, wiki and here am figuring I am doing something basically wrong.

On a hd install ndiswrapper dies probably because of the hd errors I am getting above.... ndiswrapper works fine with dsl & knoppix liveCD

Have i mentioned I am aiming at the cexy 'server' type install for the hd partitions.

Posted by hs7sv on Feb. 02 2006,06:37
The below is what I did:-

hda1 = xp
hda2 = swap
hda3 = ext2 (75MB for boot image, GRUB Frugal Install)
hda4 = etx2 (for MyDSL, data and Backup)

Option: mydsl=hda4 restore=hda4

It works. Good luck :D

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 02 2006,14:09
hi hs7sv,

got it installed and running but still cant get ndiswrapper to see hda1 - i am too embarrased to mention how long i have been trying to get it going. Does work live

Posted by hs7sv on Feb. 03 2006,06:54
For ndiswrapper, I copied WLAN driver (inf and sys files) from Driver CD to /home/dsl/ and using:
Code Sample
ndiswrapper -i /home/dsl/filename.inf
ndiswrapper -l
ndiswrapper -m

If there is no error message, then using iwconfig command in aterm as Root:-
Code Sample
# iwconfig wlan0                                                          <for checking>
# iwconfig wlan0 essid "Your Network" key 0123-4567-89 <for connecting>
and use Firefox for internet connection testing.
Note: all files in /home/dsl and /opt will be backup in /hda4/backup.tar.gz because I am using option: restore=hda4. Good luck :D

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 03 2006,19:49
yup, tried that a few weeks ago..lol..

Was getting

1. "ndiswrapper already installed, use -e (i think it was) to remove"
or
2. cpanel wouldnt let me mod the default path

So then reloaded XP to hda1 so it could use the default path and tried again. LiveCD worx bu HD doesnt.

Im sorta thinking I still ddoing something wrong with the drives.

I did get a frugal in without "the cant find hdxx" errors but ndiswrapper same as above....

I am doing plain jane installs

I know the logs are in /var but i cant find a boot log, or if i did it was empty which is rite cause at the end of boot it says it cant mount or find hdxx's ... BUT it still manages to save passwords and other settings....

one thing i have noticed is it detects a eth0 card but the non-onboard nic board only has the pci-wlan card in it... I havnt looked itno this cause i am pretty sure it is always going to detect a eth0 or put one in anyway... It doesnt see said eth0 with netcardconfigurator

The macine i am on is a cel900 with 128ram and an old pci-video card rather than the onboard vid...

Funny thing is I got me old 7800 armada lappy with 98se,win2k,XPpro AND RH6.2 multi-booting brillanty. i thought this wld be cinchy...

many thanks for your assist on this.

Posted by AwPhuch on Feb. 03 2006,23:13
DSL can only mount and READ NTFS partitions...with this

< http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm >

Windows can write to ext2

I would recommend using fat32 for windows (I think fat 32 only support 4Gig partitions though)

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by robertbas on Feb. 04 2006,04:26
ta for that Brian,

ro for ntfs and all the 7's for fat32, yep got that... i thought (not that it matters) fat32 was rite for upto 8gig, I have a 4g hda.

Here is something interesting ....

with explore2fs-1.08beta3 reports error "Windows NT 5.1 build number 2600
Could not find valid Superblock"

with explore2fs.exe "access violation at address 00020152 in module explore2fs.exe . Read of address 00000008"

The above was tested with a "Limp Linux" distro (limp_ver2.1.zip) installed on XP on a ntfs drive.... I know - I know fat only but Limp did stick and a fs within a file shud be rite even if it is ro ntfs...

My guess is the bad-block error causing all the prob. I know this has something to do with the mbr and boot.sectors but is too much google for me.

Shud it matter that I have hda 4g, hdc 1.2g and hdd 1.2g  with a cdrw hdb drive on the ide's...

By earlier post I have fat32 XP and mke2fs hda1, so i did it proper then and are ow willing to accept ro HD dsl install just to preserve the XP install an get dsl going from HD. After that worx I intended to install dsl to hdc and tackle the boot-loader edits to give a dual booter

Posted by cbagger01 on Feb. 04 2006,06:45
FAT32 does large partition sizes, up to something like 138GB or some number close to that.

However, the maximum size of a SINGLE FILE in a FAT32 system is 4GB, which is bad if you are trying to create DVD-sized ISO files :)

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