Install Abiword without myDSL


Forum: HD Install
Topic: Install Abiword without myDSL
started by: steve s.

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 28 2007,04:00
Ok, I can't figure it out.

I don't know which version of DSL I seem to have installed, but I don't have a myDSL icon so I'm not sure how to install software.

Let's say for example I want to install abiword (which is one of a few that I want to install).

So, how do I do this?  I've run dpkg-restore to get apt-get running, but I'm leary about that being the best way to install since dsl isn't a true debian install.  Is that the best way to install this?

I've downloaded abiword.dsl but I can't even find the "myDSL" button in emelfm to run an install that way.

Please advise....

Oh, and by the way, kudos to DSL for bringing this IBM ThinkPad 600 back to live...amazing product you got here! ;-)

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Mar. 28 2007,05:39
Newer DSL versions: see System Stats
Older: some showed the version in the dillo startup page.
2.0-2.1: used kernel 2.4.31 (run `uname -r`)

Are you running as user 'dsl'? mydsl can only be used with that user.
If you just aren't using icons, you can use the command-line tool `mydsl-load`

The "myDSL" button in emelfm was removed recently (not sure when added, see release notes)

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 28 2007,23:50
Quote (^thehatsrule^ @ Mar. 28 2007,00:39)
Newer DSL versions: see System Stats
Older: some showed the version in the dillo startup page.
2.0-2.1: used kernel 2.4.31 (run `uname -r`)

Are you running as user 'dsl'? mydsl can only be used with that user.
If you just aren't using icons, you can use the command-line tool `mydsl-load`

The "myDSL" button in emelfm was removed recently (not sure when added, see release notes)

Oopps...that may be my problem...I may be running it as root.  How do I check?  Then how do I change this if I am?

Other distro's I use just seem to automatically switch to a non-root user...sorry, still learning the in's-and-outs of DSL...

Oh, even sudo -s doesn't get mydsl-load to run...is that 'cause I'm running it as root?

Posted by lucky13 on Mar. 29 2007,00:41
1. To find out if you're root: Start a command prompt or open emelfm or exit X. The prompt will show user@box (where user is root, dsl, or whatever user name you've entered) both in the console/terminal and in emelfm (bottom part of the box where shell commands are entered).

2. DSL defaults to user dsl. The way to start as root by default is to enter run level 2 at boot using the cheatcode (dsl 2) or if you log in by logging in as root.

3. Don't sudo for dsl tools. They work by default only for user dsl, not for root or for any other user. As user dsl, just enter:
mydsl-load application

4. sudo -s requires a password, which defeats the purpose of using sudo in the instance where the user gets full su privileges in the first place (you'd use -s if you had root password limited privileges). So just use sudo as user dsl and you'll have su privileges.

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 29 2007,00:52
Quote (lucky13 @ Mar. 28 2007,19:41)
1. To find out if you're root: Start a command prompt or open emelfm or exit X. The prompt will show user@box (where user is root, dsl, or whatever user name you've entered) both in the console/terminal and in emelfm (bottom part of the box where shell commands are entered).

2. DSL defaults to user dsl. The way to start as root by default is to enter run level 2 at boot using the cheatcode (dsl 2) or if you log in by logging in as root.

3. Don't sudo for dsl tools. They work by default only for user dsl, not for root or for any other user. As user dsl, just enter:
mydsl-load application

4. sudo -s requires a password, which defeats the purpose of using sudo in the instance where the user gets full su privileges in the first place (you'd use -s if you had root password limited privileges). So just use sudo as user dsl and you'll have su privileges.

User:damnsmall1, so I am user a different user than root....

bash: mydsl-load command not found

apt-cache search mydsl shows nothing.

So...what am I doing wrong?  Why can't I get mydsl goin'?

Posted by lucky13 on Mar. 29 2007,00:56
Why did you set up user "damnsmall1"? Log out and log back in as user dsl. It's not rocket science:
dsl

Posted by lucky13 on Mar. 29 2007,01:00
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So...what am I doing wrong?

You're logged in wrong.
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Why can't I get mydsl goin'?

What do you not comprehend about about logging in as user dsl? The tools don't work for root, for damnsmall1, for saNtacLAus, or for bloodyCapNcrunch.

Suggested user names for using mydsl-load:
1. dsl
2. dsl
3. dsl

Try logging in as one of the previous three names and you can probably use mydsl-load.

Posted by ^thehatsrule^ on Mar. 29 2007,13:24
Are you using user "damnsmall"?
If so, and you do not have the mydsl system, you are using a  0.6x or older release of DSL.

This means you'll need to upgrade/install to a newer version (easiest) or try to manually install the mydsl scripts to be able to use extensions (excluding unc).

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 30 2007,02:49
Alright, I got abiword installed, and several other things installed, without mydsl.  I explain how in a second...

First of all, when I run abiword from command, I get this error:
Code Sample
abiword: error while loading shared libraries: libfontconfig.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Anyone know what that is and how I can fix it?

Now, for the referrence of those that might read this later (the beauty of forums ;-), this is how I installed what I installed.  This process worked great for gtksee, mplayer and gimp.

1. I went to Damn Small Linux Repositories and picked which programs I wanted.  If I wanted something, I right clicked and saved it to the hard disk.  For example, gimp-1.2.dsl.

2. Then I did this to change from it to a tar archive:
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$ cp /home/downloads/gimp-1.2.dsl /home/downloads/gimp-1.2.tar.gz


3. Then I moved it to the root folder and changed to the root directory:
Code Sample
$ mv /home/downloads/gimp-1.2.tar.gz /gimp-1.2.tar.gz
$ cd /


4. Then I unpacked/installed the archive:
Code Sample
$ tar zxvf /gimp-1.2.tar.gz


Like I said, it's worked great...I had to move a couple of the icons to the correct folder to get the new ones going, but everything has installed fine.

Well, except running abiword of course ;-) but I don't think that is an installation error, just don't know how to fix it.

Does anyone else know to fix it?

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 30 2007,02:55
Quote (lucky13 @ Mar. 28 2007,19:56)
Why did you set up user "damnsmall1"? Log out and log back in as user dsl. It's not rocket science:
dsl

I did not "set up" any user at all.  As mentioned before, it defaulted to damnsmall.

"Not rocket science?"  Hmmm...helpful.  Thanks.

I am not given the option of a log in screen.

Posted by steve s. on Mar. 30 2007,02:59
Quote (^thehatsrule^ @ Mar. 29 2007,08:24)
Are you using user "damnsmall"?
If so, and you do not have the mydsl system, you are using a  0.6x or older release of DSL.

This means you'll need to upgrade/install to a newer version (easiest) or try to manually install the mydsl scripts to be able to use extensions (excluding unc).

Thank you for your help!

Ok, clearly I am using an older version.

Is there a wiki or howto on how to upgrade without doing a clean new install?  This laptop seems grumpy with some of the cd's I've tried in there and I don't trust it for a new install.

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