sound problems

Forum: HD Install
Topic: sound problems
started by: chickenman

Posted by chickenman on Oct. 10 2004,12:09

DSL wont configure my sound card, when I run sound config it says: "The VIA Technologies|VT8233 [AC97 Audio Controller] is not currently supported."

Any help?, I would assume that I need some sort of driver or something. It plays music, but some applications wont run sound correctly (or at all) and it only as one out-put stream whitch is becomeing increaseingly annoying as only one application using audio will run at a time.

Thankyou for your assistance, Oscar Brown.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 10 2004,22:10

chickenman:

I have better success finding data on soundcard operation if I know the
system your ac97 sound chipset is in..

The ac97 is used in so many different mobos, and there have been so many
revisions of the same chipset, that it makes it hard to assist without more info.

73
ke4nt

Posted by chickenman on Oct. 11 2004,02:33

sorry, I wasn't aware of the complextiy of the situation...

its in a Gigabyte KT600 i can get you more information if its required.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 11 2004,03:09

From what little googling I have done , there are issues with that
particular audio chipset.. ( Oh Joy ! )
But not all is lost..

Most articles state that even with the oss drivers loaded,
( the via82cxxx.o ) the sound quality is poor..

Try using the alsadebs.dsl package in the repository.
Read the info file carefully, and remember to add the "alsa" command to your
startup commands if your running liveCD or poorman's..
Add the "alsa" command to your lilo.conf, and rerun lilo if using a frugal/HDInstall.

I'd experiment with a liveCD FIRST, before editing your HDInstal, just to test..
From what I've read, the alsa drivers are a MUCH better choice..

For starters, paste up your lsmod, and lspci in this thread,
so we can see WHAT has been autodetected so far..

73
ke4nt

Posted by chickenman on Oct. 11 2004,04:49

lsmod and lspci?, sorry i'm a n00b at this. I have a HDD install from the "install to hard drive" menu thing, thats a script install right? well if you tell me where lsmod and lspci are i'll post em right up. thanks for your help so far.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 11 2004,05:14

You should install two extensions to accompany your HDInstall ..

1. The dsl-dpkg.dsl - this gives your the full apt-get utilities back..

2. The gnu-utils.dsl - this gives you back your full gnu tools, and replaces
the smaller busybox substitute package . It also includes some
commonly needed tools and libs..

Once you have these installed...
1. open a root shell XTerminal > sudo su

2. type "lsmod" .. you'll see data about hardware and drivers scroll on the screen
..make your terminal window larger to gather as much as you can..
Copy and paste this into your browser window using your mouse ..

3. type "lspci -v" .. you see even more data scroll onscreen ..
Copy and paste this into your browser window using your mouse ..

73
ke4nt

Posted by chickenman on Oct. 12 2004,04:09

sorry about the lateness of my reply. I am currently downloading the .dsl packages you suggested. I also wonder if its becase I am running DSL version 7.3 when the latest is 8.2, is there a way of updateing without destroying all of my files and configurations?, is this part of my sound problems?

I would have said this before, but i was unaware DSL had changed so much it required an entire new number...

anyway, the download just finished so i'll post that data here.

heres lsmod:
Module Size Used by Not tainted
mousedev 3832 0 (unused)
af_packet 13448 0 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1 2844 0 (autoclean)
ntfs 51168 0 (autoclean)
msdos 4652 0 (autoclean)
via82cxxx_audio 19452 1
ac97_codec 11884 0 [via82cxxx_audio]
uart401 6052 0 [via82cxxx_audio]
sound 55244 0 [via82cxxx_audio uart401]
soundcore 3428 4 [via82cxxx_audio sound]
3c59x 25936 1
serial 51972 0 (autoclean)
hid 21380 0 (unused)
input 3168 0 [mousedev hid]
usb-uhci 21836 0 (unused)
usbcore 57472 1 [hid usb-uhci]
apm 9768 1
rtc 6908 0 (autoclean)

ah crap, "lspci -v" dosn't work!, what package is that from?, i tryed re-downloading dsl-dpkg.dsl but that didnt work, is it gnu-utils.dsl?

well in emelfm i get "GIF-LIB error: Wrong record type detected." when I try to "DSL" "dsl-dpkg.dsl"... help...

Posted by chickenman on Oct. 15 2004,12:29

Well, I re-installed DSL to 8.2 it took a bit but i have all my configurations back.

Heres my lsmod now:
Module Size Used by Not tainted
mousedev 3832 0 (unused)
cloop 8900 0 (unused)
af_packet 13544 0 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1 2844 1 (autoclean)
ntfs 50944 1 (autoclean)
msdos 4684 0 (autoclean)
via82cxxx_audio 19448 2
ac97_codec 11884 0 [via82cxxx_audio]
uart401 6052 0 [via82cxxx_audio]
sound 55244 0 [via82cxxx_audio uart401]
soundcore 3428 4 [via82cxxx_audio sound]
3c59x 25456 1
hid 22372 0 (unused)
input 3168 0 [mousedev hid]
serial 52068 0 (autoclean)
usb-uhci 21836 0 (unused)
usbcore 57824 1 [hid usb-uhci]
pcmcia_core 39840 0
thermal 6532 0 (unused)
processor 8976 0 [thermal]
fan 1568 0 (unused)
button 2508 0 (unused)
battery 5888 0 (unused)
ac 1792 0 (unused)
ide-cd 28704 0
ide-scsi 9040 0
rtc 7004 0 (autoclean)

and heres my lspci:
0000:00:00.0 0600: 1106:3189 (rev 80)
Subsystem: 1458:5000
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Capabilities: [80] AGP version 3.5
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:00:01.0 0604: 1106:b198
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
Memory behind bridge: e8000000-e9ffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d8000000-e7ffffff
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:0c.0 0200: 10b7:9050
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d000 [size=64]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=64K]

0000:00:0f.0 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: 1458:5002
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d400 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1458:5004
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1458:5004
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at dc00 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
Subsystem: 1458:5004
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e000 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86) (prog-if 20)
Subsystem: 1458:5004
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at eb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:11.0 0601: 1106:3227
Subsystem: 1458:5001
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 60)
Subsystem: 1458:a002
Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 5
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:01:00.0 0300: 1002:5964 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 18bc:0170
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at d8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
Memory at e9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 3.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

0000:01:00.1 0380: 1002:5d44 (rev 01)
Subsystem: 18bc:0171
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at e9010000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2

Posted by john73 on Oct. 16 2004,07:09

I am having the same problem, which I find odd as I am using a Mini-Itx and I had Knoppix 3.1 (Latest is 3.6) on it before and the full older version of Knoppix had no problems with the card.

Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 16 2004,07:53

Seeing that the via chipset is seen here, and the fact that it worked
when using the knoppix cd, do try the "alsa" package to get your
soundcard up and running..

Try this first with a liveCD, or poorman's install..
If it is successful, you can edit your lilo.conf to include the alsa command
for your HDInstall.

Restart your computer, and at the boot prompt, add the word "alsa" to
whatever you normally start with at boottime..

After you reach the desktop, download the alsadebs.dsl package
from the DSL repository..
Install it using the command "mydsl-load alsadebs.dsl" in a shell..
It should autodetect your card, and autoconfig itself..

Then try to play an mp3 file with xmms ....

This has worked for me on several difficult cards..
Search the forums for the exact method to edit your lilo.conf if you
are using a HDInstall, otherwise add the alsadebs.dsl to your
normal extension storage area or mydsl location, and bootup with the alsa command..

73
ke4nt