HDBOOT "live" from HD no floppy no cdrom no liloForum: HD Install Topic: HDBOOT "live" from HD no floppy no cdrom no lilo started by: melontree Posted by melontree on Feb. 27 2005,13:51
as long there is "live" booting from CDROM or USBi miss THE SAME live booting from hdd - so how to? i am not talking about < http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/talk/node/64 > i am not talking about dual boot i am not talking about booting with floppy aid not < http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....al+boot > i am not talking about "install" with lilo just a barebone without cdrom, without floppy NO FLOPPY, imagine a 50 meg small HD-Drive how to pack the 50 meg iso or the busted 50 meg iso to the HD (maybe pack the hd with an external computer) and what kind of boot loader where to get? boot from hdd toram as "live" version every time a fresh system i want a fresh live system like from cdrom every time i boot from HD with f2 option like dsl toram ... every time i boot from HD - no floppy, no cdrom, no 200 meg partition, no usb so how to? Posted by green on Feb. 27 2005,20:43
I've seen your other posts.My advice: Go sit down somehwere before you burst a blood vessel and have a stroke. When you start using all caps and bold letters, it's like you are yelling at everyone. Stop it. The answers you seek are right in front of you. Maybe you are not understanding them, but they are there. READ Posted by roberts on Feb. 27 2005,23:31
The F2 that you speak of comes from syslinux or isolinux. Syslinux is for vfat systems in particular boot flopply images. Isolinux is made for booting from cdroms. Both of these are simple boot loaders and not boot managers. The entire "device" is dedicated to a particular image, not mixed like you would find on a hard drive. That is why for hard drives you would want a boot manager, like lilo or grub. There you can specify mixed environments from which to boot. I can't imagine why someone would want to have to type a bunch of boot time options in each time they boot, especially from a hard drive. Most people after learning how they like their system will not want to type extra boot options. Using frugal, you can specify all your boot time options. such as toram So if the goal is to boot from hard drive but use the toram option you can currently do it using frugal. Many others have started to use Grub and can easily edit a file to achive the same effect. Posted by cbagger01 on Feb. 28 2005,05:02
Why not just "syslinux" your hard drive itself?If you don't want to use a conventional hard drive, you can always just format your RAW hard drive device as vfat without any partitions and then syslinux it. Then copy your DSL files over to /dev/hda or whatever it is called. You might also accomplish this by doing a raw dd dump of the DSL SYSLINUX version livecd directly over to your hard drive. In other words boot toram, unmount your cdrom and type something like: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hda bs=4096 and see what happens. In the worst case, you will need to reformat your hard drive and start over while losing all of your data. Posted by melontree on Feb. 28 2005,12:49
cbagger01 thanks.i already use an old 200 meg hd and lost on most of my attempts here my data, so it doesnt matter. its too bad that nobody can write a different lilo script different to the "install to hd". the man who wrtote this, rewrite this in seconds. i try for hours. it doenst help to much if there is a frugal option or a link to grub.dsl and you still have hours for trying just a simple thing like booting from hd. ill report what happened after trying both your suggestions meantime report: syslinux SYSLINUX SYS sys all command not found after and before sudo su as hda and hdc as samples are confusing, i tried various if/of switched on your suggested line until something was rumbling, happened, at the moment no access to hd so i have to reboot and post result later dd of=/dev/hdc1 if=/dev/cdrom bs=4096 mount /dev/hdc1 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, or too many mounted file systems Posted by cbagger01 on Feb. 28 2005,17:26
You should not copy the CDROM image to a partition (IE: /dev/hd?1).Try again, with /dev/hdc instead of /dev/hdc1 FYI, a quick linux primer on IDE devices: /dev/hda = Primary IDE controller, MASTER drive /dev/hdb = Primary IDE controller, SLAVE drive /dev/hdc = Secondary IDE controller, MASTER drive /dev/hdd = Secondary IDE controller, SLAVE drive while: /dev/hda1 = The first partition on the hda drive Most computers are built with the PC hard drive as the primary master, aka /dev/hda and the PC CDROM drive is the secondary master, aka /dev/hdc which is why I used the command syntax above. Good Luck. Posted by ffff on Mar. 01 2005,11:58
Someone on the Knoppix.net forums has been able to boot an iso from the hdd using a grub loader (for windows) and an addition to the boot.ini file.I've used it awhile ago, but don't know how to modify to run any bootable iso, at the moment it was only done for knoppix. You can check the link < here > Posted by melontree on Mar. 02 2005,13:24
thnaks for the hda ... hdc primer.maybe after sucessful boot it wont run on a transferred system with hda. so i have to change the plugs and ffff even on knoppix board its an issue. its simply too much for beginners or end users to read more than one page of instructions. as long as its an issue it should be solved. best with lilo. again the sudo dsl-hdinstall does all, really all burn and write, except a lasting boot record. it already does an one time boot record, but no lasting. maybe i have to analyse this script. knows anyone wheter this boot record or this one time boot prompt is in the ram and not on the disk? |