HD intsall questionsForum: HD Install Topic: HD intsall questions started by: eliquid Posted by eliquid on Aug. 11 2005,15:51
Im new to linux and want something already set up and easy to use for now, which is why I am trying live cds like DSL.I like the fact its live and small and based on Debian, but I have this question... If I get DSL, I know it has knoppix and debian roots, but if I do a HD install some parts of this website says it installs as debian... so if I do a HD install, I get pure debian or a DSL debian variant? The reason I ask is this... I want to get packages directly from debian as they are updated and released, however I dont want to do a net install or full 14 cd install of debian to begin with. I also heard that with DSL that pure debian packages dont always work. So I am wondering that if I do HD install from DSL if debian packages will be 100% compliant for stable branch and not have ot use the mydsl extensions packages Posted by cbagger01 on Aug. 11 2005,16:17
Your assement of the situation is correct.DSL is compatible with much of the Debian packages, but it is not "pure debian", ethier as a livecd or after doing a hard drive install. If you want a pure debian install, you can download the small debian network install iso or you can also install a Debian system as an option from the KNOPPIX livecd hard drive install script. The big issues with DSL and debian are: 1) DSL uses the TinyX aka KDrive xservers that are part of the freedesktop.org xserver project. These are different from the standard Xfree86 servers so if you try to install/upgrade packages that are part of the x windows subsystem, you will break your DSL installation. 2) DSL has modified the original package payload of many Debian packages in order to save space on the livecd. For example, many documentation files and man page files and international language files have been deleted and also some individual binaries and libraries have also been removed at times. This is less important than 1) but it can still bite you if you install a package that depends on this binary or library. For example, some of the GNU utilities have been removed from the base livecd and others have been replaced with the busybox equivalent in order to save space. These modifications can occasionally bite the user when he/she does an apt-get install of something. But for the most part, DSL is compatible with Debian if you do the following: Install (upgrade) to GNU utils with gnu-utils.dsl NEVER do an apt-get dist upgrade Avoid installing or upgrading packages that are part of the x-windows subsystem UNLESS you manually install XFree86 instead of using the default DSL xserver Posted by green on Aug. 11 2005,16:19
you can use the apt-get or synaptic program install method on a HD install, which covers quite a bit of applications/programs.however, i refuse to use the hd install so this comes from reading the posts. EDIT: bagger posted just seconds before i did. didn't know it, so disregard this post. |