Flash is doing weird thingsForum: Multimedia Topic: Flash is doing weird things started by: PDG1 Posted by PDG1 on Jan. 22 2007,20:40
Hey, I'm running a 3.0.1 DSL live CD or at least i think it's 3.0.1... any ways... I normally just Install Flash using firefox when i need it but these days that doesn't work. In fact... nothing is working. I simply can't figure out how to view flash content on this machine. I didn't change any settings.. obviously since i'm using a live CD and I didn't install new hardware even though i doubt that it would have a big impact. I looked through the forum and found nothing on my problem... am I unique? Rock on ~Ryan Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 23 2007,01:37
It may be due to the recent release of Flash player version 9 for Linux. This version apparently requires Gtk2 for some silly reason, so it doesn't seem to work in a DSL basic system.
Posted by roberts on Jan. 23 2007,02:31
Here is a site still offering < Flash Version 7 plugin >Better grab a copy and save it. Posted by PDG1 on Jan. 23 2007,03:23
oh... so the firefox "install missing plug-ins" thing installs Flash 9...I thought it was still in beta. And I've yet to see anything that did something that Flash 7 couldn't anyways lol, maybe I'm just not on the right web sites and why on Earth would it need Gtk2 now? Thanks for the help I'll just put the plugin up on my Box account or something Rock on ~Ryan Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 23 2007,03:48
From what I have read during the beta development, it seems that the Linux Flash dev team doesn't really know much about Linux development. My guess is they probably used Glade to code the damn thing =o) Honestly, though, I'm still sitting here dumbfounded, wondering the same thing. The flash player does have a right-click menu, but apart from that there is no user interface. It's just plain laughable. The player apparently doesn't even work in Konqueror, which is probably the second or third most used browser under desktop Linux systems. Posted by PDG1 on Jan. 23 2007,16:52
haha... my old highschool uses KonquerorI wonder if they're having any problems we had a handfull of Windows machines and a handfull of Linux machines. I think the admin was doing some kind of test to see how the kids reacted and which OS the kids prefered and stuff... but if there's a problem with flash on the machines, I imagine the kids will learn that you can't watch Youtube or anything on the Linux machines and run away to the Windows machines... which makes me sad and I'm not exactly sure what Glade is... is it like... a compiler or a GUI builder or something? Rock on ~Ryan Posted by mikshaw on Jan. 23 2007,17:23
It's a development environment for Gnome, similar to what kdevelop is for KDE, Fluid is for FLTK, etc.Many developers prefer to use these tools rather than writing plain old C/C++ in a text editor because it's much easier. The downfall is that the tools tie your application to a specific widget set. If you use something like Glade 2 or 3, your application is likely to shut out people who choose not to install Gtk2 and in some cases those who are not running Gnome. This is fine if your application is related to the Gnome project, as far as I'm concerned, and for all I know the Adobe devs didn't use Glade. The end result is the same as if they had, however. The Flash plugin is in such great demand that I think it was silly for them to go with Gtk at all, even if it was 1.2. They could have chosen xlib for the single right-click menu, which would have worked for nearly everyone using Linux. This is one of the big problems with gui development, however. People seem to think that the interface is the application, and instead of coding a program and adding the interface on top of it, they build the interface and then plug code into the widgets. Posted by roberts on Jan. 23 2007,17:31
Well said! I could not agree more! Wordsmiths are quickly disappearing. |