flashplayer9
Forum: Multimedia
Topic: flashplayer9
started by: alexKleider
Posted by Guest on Nov. 08 2007,05:47
I've been looking over the postings re FlashPlayer and am left with the clear impression that it just doesn't work with DSL. It's been easy to install on other distros (Debian and Ubuntu.) Is there a reason it won't work with DSL?I don't know what all this plug in does but I'm wanting it just to be able to see video clips on the web: comedy central's The Daily Show with John Stewart for example. When I try, I am offered a download of version 9. Going through the instructions leads to installation of files (as it did with Debian) but the plug in seems not to be recognized when I again try to play a video clip.
Any thoughts?
Posted by curaga on Nov. 08 2007,16:14
You'll need gtk2, a newer Firefox (at least 1.5 I think), and alsa if you want sound..Or try mplayer and mplayerplug-in
Posted by stupid_idiot on Nov. 08 2007,17:49
First you need GTK2 itself - Either 'unc/gtk2-0705.unc' [14M] or the newer 'unc/gtk+-2.10.9.unc' [16M].Contains: GTK2 libraries bundled with other misc libraries.
Second, you need a GTK2 version of Firefox. At present, we have 'uci/firefox-1.5.0.6.uci' [8.4M].
So in total, at least 22M of downloading is needed to get Firefox working.
After that, installing Flash 9 is comparatively simple:
1. Download flash 9: < Link > [2.5M]
2. Extract 'install_flash_player_9.tar.gz' by:
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| tar -xzf install_flash_player_9.tar.gz |
If this directory does not exist, you can create it yourself:
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| mkdir plugins |
It would be best to save all the above files onto your hard disk, so there's no need to download them again.
You can also download MyDSL extensions directly, without using the MyDSL Panel, from the MyDSL webpage: < http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/mydsl/ >
You can download the files with Firefox. Or, you can use 'wget' from the command line:
1. (Firefox) Right-click file link; 'Copy Link Location'
2. (terminal) 'cd' to the directory you want
3. Type 'wget', followed by: Paste the link from Firefox by pressing Shift+Insert. Press enter.
If things go as planned, I hope to submit a stripped-down GTK2 extension sometime next month (December), containing just the few GTK2 libraries that Firefox et al (Thunderbird etc) needs, with a size of about 2.0M. This should make things easier for those who just want a working Firefox+Flash.
Posted by stupid_idiot on Nov. 08 2007,18:39
Just for youtube:You can also save flash-video (.flv) files from youtube to your hard disk.
The procedure is as follows:
1. Get this nifty and very famous Python script: < Homepage >
Save it somewhere in $PATH, normally '/usr/local/bin/'.
Make it executable:
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| chmod +x /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl |
3. (terminal) Copy and paste video's webpage URL:
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| youtube-dl -o choose_a_filename.flv hxxp://youtube.com/watch?v=Xxxxxxxx |
Posted by curaga on Nov. 09 2007,13:11
No prob - here's my shameless plug:if you don't want to get python, there are bash scripts to download youtube vids too; one can be found in "scripts and programming"
Posted by io333 on Nov. 13 2007,02:58
Flash crashes in about 3 seconds on my end. You mean it actually works for you? If so, you're the only person it does for. Could you explain why it doesn't crash for you but crashes for everyone else?
Posted by jpeters on Nov. 13 2007,15:47
| Quote (io333 @ Nov. 12 2007,21:58) |
| Flash crashes in about 3 seconds on my end. You mean it actually works for you? If so, you're the only person it does for. Could you explain why it doesn't crash for you but crashes for everyone else? |
You have doubts?
First of all, I think it was established that a 2.6 kernel is required for flash 9.
Posted by stupid_idiot on Nov. 14 2007,12:18
Getting the same problem as well. I went to a youtube video page. The text and images load fine, but once the Flash interface appears, Firefox freezes and quits.The only error shown by 'strace' is this:
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| run-mozilla.sh: line 424: [PID] Segmentation fault |
* Testing with DSL 4.0.
Posted by jpeters on Nov. 15 2007,17:59
| Quote (stupid_idiot @ Nov. 14 2007,07:18) |
| I would hesitate to say it is a kernel incompatibility though. |
< http://labs.adobe.com/wiki....r_Linux >
Note requirements
Posted by roberts on Nov. 15 2007,23:16
So flash 9 means big, bigger, bloat.What happens when the sites start using Silverlight, then must we also have moonlight and mono?
Posted by jpeters on Nov. 16 2007,02:45
| Quote (roberts @ Nov. 15 2007,18:16) |
| So flash 9 means big, bigger, bloat. |
Flash 9 means idiotic; simple as that. Why not have an "upgrade" that renders ALL current computers obsolete?
Posted by io333 on Nov. 16 2007,08:01
| Quote (jpeters @ Nov. 13 2007,10:47) | ||
You have doubts? First of all, I think it was established that a 2.6 kernel is required for flash 9. |
I got a number of flash videos to work on streetfire.net and youtube, using opera, and trying to watch a few different videos. Eventually several of them showed fine (even if the exact same video didn't work the first few times... who knows why) except without sound. So a 2.6 kernal is not required, only working out the bugs between flash9 and dsl. The nice thing about opera is that it doesn't crash when a flash video doesn't work, it just grey's out the flash interface. I did have to install all that GTK stuff, whatever it is.
Posted by jpeters on Nov. 16 2007,08:56
| Quote (io333 @ Nov. 16 2007,03:01) |
| I got a number of flash videos to work on streetfire.net and youtube, using opera, and trying to watch a few different videos. |
Are you sure they were playing through flash 9? I have no problem with youtube videos, etc., without it. Flash 7 works fine for most sites. This is similiar to the issue of sites that "require" the latest version of IE for everything to work right.....hello? (Note: don't laugh...Comcast actually laid this on me the other day....)
Posted by io333 on Nov. 17 2007,01:04
| Quote (jpeters @ Nov. 16 2007,03:56) | ||
Are you sure they were playing through flash 9? I have no problem with youtube videos, etc., without it. Flash 7 works fine for most sites. This is similiar to the issue of sites that "require" the latest version of IE for everything to work right.....hello? (Note: don't laugh...Comcast actually laid this on me the other day....) |
Absolutely, it was with flash 9, and definitely flash videos. Here is what I did.
Installed Flash9 according to instructions in someone elses post and all the GTK stuff and firefox 1.5
Firefox 1.5 always crashed, so I also found in a post instructions for setting an alternate path with Opera to plugins, set the path to the plugins in the Firefox directory, then went and watched some flash videos in Opera. They worked not at all the first 10 or so attemtps, and then about half the time the video would show, but with no sound -- without me doing any changes at all except to keep trying to watch different flash videos. Weird bug.
Posted by jpeters on Nov. 17 2007,02:07
| Quote (io333 @ Nov. 16 2007,20:04) |
| They worked not at all the first 10 or so attemtps, and then about half the time the video would show, but with no sound -- without me doing any changes at all except to keep trying to watch different flash videos. Weird bug. |
I and others have reported similar experiences. My hunch is that the problem occurs when resources are asked for that you don't have; it's less of a problem when the video works with flash 7. Having 2.6 apparently eliminates header problems, etc. "Requirements: OSS developer package, meaning Linux header files (Linux 2.6.15 is known to be working)"
Personally, I see flash 9 as the problem, not DSL, and would love to see a linux alternative. I know there are some projects currently active. This is WAR, baby!
< http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Gnash >
< http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ >
Posted by a2brute on May 07 2008,03:50
Not sure if this helps, but I have had flash 9 runing with firefox 2.0.0.3 with DSL 3.0.1 probably since it was released. No problems yet. I am running it on a P3 866 with 512 MB RAM. I installed the GTK2 package, GCC, and any other libraries flash asked for. I first set up ALSA and made sure that was working. Then I installed the firefox browser from the tar.gz on mozilla's website. Then I installed flash from source, and linked the plugin as instructed by adobe's website.
It just worked.
Given firefox has been through a few revisions since, and so has DSL, but I know installation with FF 2.0.0.3, and DSL 3.0.1 has been working without a hitch.
Posted by lucky13 on May 07 2008,12:45
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| Then I installed flash from source |
Last I checked, Flash was *only* available as a precompiled binary -- hence the objections of groups like FSF and the reason for the existence of projects like Gnash.
Part of the problem with Flash > 7 is DSL's use of an older glibc. At least that's my understanding.
Posted by a2brute on May 07 2008,18:40
My bad. You are correct, I meant to say installed the binary available via adobe's website. I make the mistake o immediately associating anything not in a package with "source". And it has been a long time since I set it up. But anyhow, it is still working for me with the combination of DSL 3.0.1, FF 2.0.0.3, and Flash 9. Can't remember doing anything special. Oh, I do have the flashblock add-on installed, so I only run the flash I want, but I commonly watch youtube and google videos with it.
Posted by jpeters on May 08 2008,05:42
| Quote (a2brute @ May 07 2008,18:40) |
| My bad. You are correct, I meant to say installed the binary available via adobe's website. I make the mistake o immediately associating anything not in a package with "source". And it has been a long time since I set it up. But anyhow, it is still working for me with the combination of DSL 3.0.1, FF 2.0.0.3, and Flash 9. Can't remember doing anything special. Oh, I do have the flashblock add-on installed, so I only run the flash I want, but I commonly watch youtube and google videos with it. |
Well, I just tried it with FF 2.0.0.14 and it crashed. (DSL 4.X, gtk2).