filesharing - DSL<->DSL<->XP
Forum: Networking
Topic: filesharing - DSL<->DSL<->XP
started by: TravMan1963
Posted by TravMan1963 on Aug. 14 2006,04:43
Hello,What I have:
DSL 3.0 and 2.0 -
2.0 is installed to HD -
3.0 is running from cd
XP is 'running as full install'
Both DSL's are running inside MS Virtual PC's
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what I can do:
both DSL's/XP can access internet.
all pc's can ping each other
I can log on to both DSL's - from XP - and each DSL can log onto the other DSL box...
(this is using ssh - that is how I am logging onto the 'other' DSL box from a DSL box)
Logging on from XP is by using (ssh active on DSL)
and
winscp (free download -> < winscp >)
With winscp - I can transfer files between XP and DSL. (again - only ssh needs to be active on DSL)
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What I WANT to do:
Connect from DSL box to DSL box... (and eventially to XP)
Preferrably with a gui (axyftp or emelfm ?)
I have tried using ftp - but can't log on that way (the password isn't the same as the ssh connection - guessing configuration is needed?? (ftp - (text mode) would be a bit slow/cumbersome/time consuming for moving lots of files)
Logging on with ssh - doesn't allow file transfer (?) - I can execute apps on the other box.... but that's not what I really want to do.
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and ... I can connect via Remote Desktop - to a 2003 server - (still from the virtual DSL box)... that's alot of penquin power
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Hope I'm clear...
TIA
TM
Posted by nickelplated on Aug. 15 2006,11:41
So you know exactly what you want to do, that's good and all.. But I'm not sure the rest of us do?Go to the menu>System>AddUsers, add a username, then click the BetaFTP button in the DSLpanel. After that you can ftp into that user's account from another computer.
Or is it that you want to transfer stuff between these different operating system on the same computer? Because if that's the case then there's no need for ftp at all, when you can simply mount the other filesystem and transfer files with emelfm as you wanted. I can't see why there's a need for ftp if it's just virtual operating systems on the same computer.
Posted by mikshaw on Aug. 15 2006,13:44
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| I can't see why there's a need for ftp if it's just virtual operating systems on the same computer. |
Because virtual operating systems use virtual hardware...the virtual devices available in one virtual system are not the same as those in another virtual system, so they must be networked rather than mounted.
Posted by nickelplated on Aug. 15 2006,18:06
Hmm, that's interesting. So is it the case that it's actually impossible to mount them like this, or is it a failing of the mount system that could in theory be rectified with a new version? That's a bummer about the FTP thing, kind of a hackish workaround to the problem.
Posted by mikshaw on Aug. 15 2006,20:57
I'm not sure what the source of the limitation is, and I have no experience with virtualpc. I assume a network can be established between the two virtual systems (using the host as a nat server?) so that shares can be accessed through regular networking (samba maybe?). I can't say for sure...the only similar experience I've had is connecting a vmware machine to its host system.
Posted by TravMan1963 on Aug. 18 2006,23:44
Thanks for all the posts...And - sorry for being unclear...
Any how - I got it fixed....
Here is how....
On both linux 'boxes' (running in M$ VPC - is QUME an option here?)
- both network cards (as a setting in VPC, not linux - must be set to use the host ('real pc') network card. This was already set - so wasn't the problem.
Both linux boxes - must have a user set - with a password...
i.e.
sudo passwd dsl (I think this may have been my downfall...
I was attempting to log on as root - having set the password - which DOES work for ssh - but not for FTP...)
The 'linux boxes' - have the default setting of DHCP client on. (Probably after they broadcast at bootup - and find a DHCP server I'm guessing)
For my example - this was fine (My motorola SBG900 modem/gateway - is also a DHPC server)
Activate the Beta_FTP server on both machines. (You could just do it on one machine - and use axyftp on only one machine)
Use axyftp for the transfer of the files
(enter the 'other linux box's IP address, User ID and password)
--The 'filesharing' (via FTP) can begin....
Same procedure for the XP box - I use WS_FTP for the client software. I haven't tested setting up XP as the server yet.
< XP as FTP server >
< more info >
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nickleplated - I think it is possible - to mount the filesystems/hardrives... but I think I need another 'patch' from M$ - FTP works fine for this - mikshaw is on the right track there... (it may be something that only works for other M$ os's?)
That is - this 'patch/upgrade' must be installed for an M$ virtual machine to 'map' the drive on the host...) I don't think it has anything to do with DSL....
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me thinks me was cornfused earlier - I was using winscp on the XP box (link in previous post)- and connecting - with the linux box running ssh -
I read about the different password/user (other than root) etc required 'somewhere'.. it may have been < here >
DSL saves XP Pro...
Which came in very handy this week - 'cause I had to rescue the files off a 'real' networked pc (XP - had died - was taking 30mins + to boot (2.4GHz system)..none of the 'recovery console or other M$ procedures could save this beast' ... so I loaded up DSL 2.0 ('live cd' on the XP machine) (I think 3.0 didn't show up right on the LCD screen?) --- then loaded the software (winscp) on a networked win98 machine...(this machine would not boot from my cd's to run DSL) got the data... then nuked the (XP drive... put XP and Ubuntu back on.... (Xandros had a display problem as well...) (that's another long story - I got XP installed... and 2 flavors of linux... and the linux's ran fine... the XP -- NOT....
so - I deleted the partition XP was on - recreated it - formatted - and -- would XP install -NO! - the cd would not even start - untill I destroyed/rebuilt the Partition table again....
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And... to keep rambling... I also got monkey setup as a web server (virtual again...) - that I can access from the XP box... so - these 'learning how it works' - comes in very handy when a 'real' problem (ahem.. windoze...) arises....
-- but the really 'funny' thing was when I sent myself an email - inside the linux box --- to my ISP's mail(server)... and back.. to my XP inbox
--from what I've read - setting up a mail server is much more - complex...
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To wit - it may have been faster to use the cdburner in DSL .. but I hadn't dug in deep enough to try it out (Xandros's burning worked flawlessly - I had burned a copy of Ubuntu 6.0xxx but it was a bad burn (Ubuntu verified that -- after I arrived at the clients house.... Xandros downloaded another ISO - and I simply clicked on the ISO file - and it burned to CD- slick!)
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DSL rocks!
Again thanks for the brain cell activity on this...
TM
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