It won't dial.


Forum: Networking
Topic: It won't dial.
started by: Odin5578

Posted by Odin5578 on Oct. 08 2004,05:14
Ok, I just installed dsl today because I've heard alot about linux and wanted to try it out. Well, when I first tried it I loved it, but as you know any computer with no games and not connected to the internet is kind of boring lol. All you have is paint and word processor, not my cup of tea.

I right clicked, hit net and the setup. I set up on a PAP, I put everything in right, the login and the password and the number it dials. (Dial-Up, Local ISP). Then, I went to it again and hit dial, I typed in the name of the provider and the window closed, nothing happened, no screen showing it was connecting and no dialing noise. I waited a cpl mins and click on the browser and said it couldn't access the dsl site. So I assume it's not connecting. Now I may have forgot to set something up I'm not sure, can any of you help me? I'm using the boot disk, I haven't installed dsl on my hd. Thanks.
                                                                   ---Odihnn

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 08 2004,16:33
most likely, your modem is not really a modem.

It's the accursed atrocity known as a winmodem.

you can try linmodems.org to see if you can find a driver for your specific winmodem, but you will have to compile it. Your best bet to do that is to use either the gcc1.dsl in the testing area (from live-cd and save the driver to a floppy or something) just don't install the gcc1.dsl to a hd-install, it's still in testing and may have bug issues...

oh, and

Welcome to the Revolution!!!

-J.P.
SaidinUnleashed

Posted by Odin5578 on Oct. 08 2004,17:28
Ok, I found my modem on the list at least I think I did. Now where do I get the driver? I have a BCM v.90 56k modem. It game with my gateway.Thank you.
Posted by Odin5578 on Oct. 08 2004,18:28
Right now I'm still on xp, i'm using the boot disk to use dsl. I haven't installed dsl to my computer. If I download gcc1 how do I get it to the Linux, because it's to big to go on a floppy.

What you're saying is to get the driver for my modem, and then use the gcc1 to compile it? Sorry, I'm new to this and don't know much about it yet. Thanks for your help.

Posted by AwPhuch on Oct. 08 2004,18:34
Quote (Odin5578 @ Oct. 08 2004,13:28)
Ok, I found my modem on the list at least I think I did. Now where do I get the driver? I have a BCM v.90 56k modem. It game with my gateway.Thank you.

< http://www.modemsite.com/56k/bcm.asp >
< http://www.linuxquestions.org/questio....t469841 >

STFW bud....
< http://www.google.com/search?....+Search >

Brian
AwPhuch

Posted by Odin5578 on Oct. 08 2004,21:26
well, after I get the driver how do I get it onto dsl? I'm currently on XP. and the last time i tried to send a file through the floppy when i ussed em to try and open the floppy drive it listed no files inside.
Posted by Rapidweather on Oct. 08 2004,22:56
May I suggest that you take your machine to a service center and ask that a
hardware modem that will handle linux be installed. Have them get it running in
Windows XP. Then you can return home, and try out Damn Small Linux and see
if you can get connected. If the current version of DSL will not connect, then
you might want to add the Wvdial extension, and try that. Wvdial works very well
with all of my modems, that are not "winmodems", of course.
I have not had any luck with the ppp setup found in DSL versions 6x - 8x. An older version that can
be downloaded (by a friend with broadband) is 0.5.3.1. That version has wvdial
built in. Also, it might be possible to email John Andrews, and ask if he can make a CD for you with the Wvdial extension in the root of the CD. Perhaps a small fee would be added to the base cost of your DSL CD. I am not sure if he is
set up to handle custom requests like this, but he does have the regular versions
ready to ship.
You want to stick with Damn Small Linux, as they have the forum for support, and a wide range of mirrors to download the .iso file to make the CD.
It's possible to download that on a pen drive at a friend's where broadband is available, and then take that home and burn your own CD.
Unfortunately, Gateway and Dell computers come with winmodems, and they do not offer a "linux hardware modem" when they fill your online order for a Gateway or Dell. That's because of their connection with Microsoft, they get XP for less than $40.00 per machine, you would pay $300 in the store for XP Pro. So, you can really only have XP if it is preinstalled. Dell has very nice machines for under $600.00, but mine that I got (fully loaded) only runs DSL 0.6.2, not the newest 0.8.2. I have remastered 0.6.2, and am working with a
remaster of 0.8.2 now (running it right now), that has problems running on as many different machines as the DSL 0.6x versions. I have to use an external hardware modem with my Dell, but DSL 0.6x works very well. Right now, my Beta remaster of DSL 0.8.2 has Gimp, Opera, and Firefox, Wvdial.
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I run that on a dual-processor homemade machine in my computer room.
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To add those applications to your DSL, you need to follow the official DSL way of adding Extensions for each application you want to add to the base DSL. Search on the forums for help getting a custom DSL with extensions made.
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  :D

Posted by cbagger01 on Oct. 09 2004,02:34
You don't need to save your gcc1.dsl file to a linux partition in order to use it.

Instead, just save it to your Windows partition, reboot into DSL and use Emelfm to navigate to your windows partition.

Here is an example:

Windows partition is located on the 1st hard drive (hda) and the first data partition (hda1).

Open Emelfm and go to /mnt/ directory

Right-click on the "hda1" directory and choose "mount".

I am now inside my Windows drive.

I drill down to /mnt/hda1/windows/temp/ directory and highlight the "gcc1.dsl" file.

I then push the "myDSL" button inside emelfm and wait until the screen flickers.

The gcc programs are now installed into my DSL ramdisk.

I will lose them if I reboot, but I can repeat this procedure to temporarily re-install.

For permanent installation, I need to do a hard disk install.

Posted by SaidinUnleashed on Oct. 09 2004,06:48
just remember not to write to your windows partition while you're running DSL. NTFS and Linux don't play nice together.

blame M$.

-J.P.
SaidinUnleashed

Posted by cbagger01 on Oct. 09 2004,18:25
Not a problem.

You will not be allowed to write to your windows partition (it is considered read-only while running DSL) so unless you try really hard, you will be unable to break it.

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