Thinkpad 380edForum: Laptops Topic: Thinkpad 380ed started by: psubhash Posted by psubhash on June 10 2004,13:09
I have IBM Thinkpad 380ED48 MB RAM 3 GB Hard Disk I have tried to boot from a CDROM but I get a blank screen and nothing happens. Can anyone help Posted by ke4nt1 on June 10 2004,20:48
Try booting by this method:When splash screen comes up, press "F2" type "dsl vga=normal" , press <enter> If you see a penguin in the top left corner your making progress. If still nothing, reboot, and try this ... fb800x600 <enter> 73 ke4nt Posted by Truman_Jones on June 13 2004,05:49
I have a Thinkpad 380D80MB Ram 1.3Gig HD I always use fb800x600 <enter>. Its always worked for me Posted by l0st on July 10 2004,08:51
I have a similar problem, but this happens with an Acer Travelmate 240.Absolutely nothing happens after the boot prompt... Any suggestions? Posted by Big_Ken on July 10 2004,16:40
I have the same laptop, ThinkPad 380D with 48 MB RAM and a 2 GB HD, which is dual boot with Win98se and DSL 0.7.1. I've tried to get the sound to work using some suggestions from the forum but no luck. It's not a big deal but if Truman Jones or anyone else have any suggestions, it would be greatly appreciated. DSL would be loaded from the CDROM as well as the HD. Win98se says the driver is Crystal cs4232. Posted by ke4nt1 on July 10 2004,18:17
Try some of the suggestions in this link..< http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....=cs4232 > My Thinkpad is a 770, but it also uses the crystal cs4232 sound chip. I'd at least try to manually run these commands...... " cd lib/modules/2.4.22xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/ " " insmod uart401 " ..... if no errors, then try.. " insmod cs4232 io=0x530 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 mpuio=0x330 mpuirq=5 " ...... again, if no errors , " ctrl-alt-bksp " ....to exit X " startx " ........to get back into X See if you have an audio icon in your right bottom corner. If this works, read linked post for making this permanent. 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 06 2004,16:42
I too have a thinkpad 380My problem is with 0.8 booting and warning me that no KNOPPIX file system is found. It boots into a ' limited ' shell ( it's words ) and pretty much leaves me in the dark. Isn't the KNOPPIX FS on the CD. I know my partitions are not KNOPPIX but I need to load DSL in order to change anything. The partitions are a 2 GB ext3 , a 500 MB ext3 and a 200 MB swap , rest is free. I want to keep the 500 MB something portable across various OS's, others can change. How can I get DSL loaded to install to my HD? Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 06 2004,16:48
Does running " failsafe " at the boot prompt work for you ?73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 07 2004,16:38
You mean type failsafe at the ' boot: ' prompt.Yes tried that and same results. The CD finds no KNOPPIX fs and loads a shell prompt. However I have no idea how to proceed from there. I'm assuming the shell is bash but nothing tells me either way. And I have no idea what ' commands ' are built into the knoppix shell that is loaded. It reads something like ' knoppix#> '. So I'm trying to figure out what happened and how to install to the HD. However I'm not sure it is even loading. I would like to try it out before commiting to an HD install. But so far it doesn't ' seem ' to be loading DSL. Posted by Modrak on Sep. 08 2004,16:16
Or try simple "modprobe sb" as root :-) It worked for me (i have set SoundBlaster emulation in bios) Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 08 2004,21:07
We've got to get it to boot into DSL first..Have you tried another CD ? Some cdrom drives are very picky.. Some cd drives like cdroms burned at 1x,2x,4x, etc.. Yes, the filesystem is on the CD.. And you seem to have made it past the boot, if your seeing the "limited filesystem" messages.. I've seen this when reading from a "borderline" cdrom. I usually burned another one, and roblem solved... Does this same cd work on another box? 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 08 2004,22:11
Sorry modrak exactly who are you trying to help ?I have a boot problem and a KNOPPIX fs not being found. What does soundblaster have to do with this ? You posted a solution that is found on this thread ? I'll ask again. Does anyone know what's up with DSL 0.8.0 telling me that KNOPPIX fs is not found when I boot and what am I suppose to do about it? Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 08 2004,22:15
My previous post was directed at you, guest .. not modrak73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 08 2004,22:18
Actually ke4nt I was at first thinking the ISO may be bad.But I haven't been able to redownload it yet. Don't know what the ISO structure is suppose to look like but windows can read it so I was thinking the CD was good. What does the typical Thinkpad like 1x, 4x, how fast a speed. I'll try another machine first and see what happens. The laptop I'm trying this on has two blank ext3 partitions and a swap. Does DSL have problems with ext3? If I get the CD loaded should I change the partitions before installing to hard drive? Posted by guest on Sep. 08 2004,22:20
Sorry ke4ntWas replying to modrak before I replied to you. Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 08 2004,22:52
Oh , boy..My thinkpad has a 20X cdrom drive.. It doesn't like burned disks at all... period.. I have had some success with burning at 4x.. I can forget 12x or higher with my drive.. Did your md5sums match? For as far as you got, My impression wasn't a bad .iso file, just "on the edge" readability from the cdrom.. use this.. goto the directory where you have the .iso file.. type this.. "md5sum dsl-0.8.0.iso" you'll get a checksum .. Compare it to the dsl-0.8.0.iso.md5.txt file .. You'll find it in the same place you found the .iso file to download... My guess is that they will match .. If they don't , than d/l it again.. If they do, try a slower burn speed.. Another thing to try is copying the contents of the cdrom to the hard drive using another os, like tomsrtbt or windows. Then bootup using the " dsl fromhd=hda1 " command , or whatever your partition is on your drive.. no NTFS partitions allowed, only fat/fat32, or linux ext2 And lastly, you can use the frugal_lite method to install a poorman's install to your hard drive, if you have a broadband connection... 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 09 2004,17:12
No the md5's don't match but I problem I have noticed is that sometimes a file doesn't download at the same size as reported, like for example a 12.7 mb file might actually be between 12.5 to 12.9. That has happened to me before, that would change the md5 wouldn't it. Won't the filesystem on my computer if it's different from the server's filesystem make some problems with the md5. I'll redownload if changing the burn speed doesn't help.dsl-0.8.0 said 50000 some bytes but what I downloaded was 44700 some. Won't that change the md5. Reported checksum ( md5sum.exe ): aedaf73dc50090d8902e988a0cfd5876 *dsl-0.8.0.iso What DSL says it should be: 0794134f05c78903e1ac2de573e2d421 dsl-0.8.0.iso Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 12 2004,19:28
A: Use wget to download the .iso , NOT a browser..( If your using another OS, use an FTP program ..) B: Regardless of the file size reported by different programs, the MD5sum MUST match, or your download is corrupted .. The repository rounds off filesizes, emelfm rounds off filesizes .. Use a shell to see exact byte counts. They should MATCH exactly .. ( WinMD5 is a good program for checking .iso downloads in W2K/XP ) Try again with the dsl-0.8.1.1.iso 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 20 2004,23:47
OK, I obtained a verified 8.1.1 isoHowever before I burn it I want to make I got things right. CD-RW or CD-R ? What speed ? I have Roxio Easy CD Creator, should I use something else ? I have also an old build of cdrecord for windows, will that work ( better ? ) ? Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 21 2004,00:02
IMHOI'd use a cdr - not a cdrw..many drives do not support cdrw media stay away from the blue dyes, use the lt. green/nearly clear ones. Burn at 4x 2x 1x , whatever time you can tolerate .. Roxio is fine, just burn the ISO IMAGE to the CDR .. Do not use the UDF packet format.. I'm not familiar with cdrecord for windows.. 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 21 2004,23:51
It not a question of what I tolerate but what Roxio will do ?The slowest it will burn is 4x , so I'll see if the thinkpad can read that. Let you know what happens. Posted by guest on Sep. 23 2004,18:57
OK that fixed it.However I have a video problem. Resolution gets screwed up. DSL tries 1024x768 by default ( i know my laptop won't do that ). I'm suppose to be able to use 800x600x16 max. However I can't get that res to display right. Appears as a green mesh and not able to read anything. I have specified this res in the prompt and the xsetup. Xsetup can be displayed properly but the desktop doesn't. Make sense ? Can get the res for setup right but not desktop. Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 23 2004,21:08
Try booting with fb800x600That should keep the text from rolling off the bottom of the screen.. Then when you get to xsetup options, pick xfbdev and 800x600 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Sep. 28 2004,18:58
I can't set res with xfbdevI can set the mouse and some other setting ( can't remember I think it was usb )and then it starts the desktop, it skips the resolution setup. I can set all three with xvesa but that doesn't work and is what I am having problems with. Any ideas what's wrong with xfbdev ? Posted by ke4nt1 on Sep. 28 2004,20:39
My mistake..Once you set the fb800x600 at boottime, all you get is 800x600 when you select Xfbdev.. You are correct when you said all you get is the mouse choices. If you need a larger resolution, try fb1024x768 But realize you'll ONLY get 1024x768 oops ...800x600 for you only... according to your post. 73 ke4nt Posted by KnightFire on Oct. 01 2004,06:26
Hi ke4nt,I'm trying to install DSL 0.8.2 on an IBM ThinkPad 365XD (P120, 48MB, 1.5GB), I'm getting the, can't find... limited message as well... I believe it a scsi/ide issue as when I boot from a DSL floppy and choose expert I can see that the cdrom drive is being identified as hdb, but then DSL tries to load scd0. I tried passing noscsi, but DSL still goes for scd0, even in failsafe and expert modes. FYI TomsRtBt boot for me, but an old version of muLinux does - and even allows me to mount the cdrom drive. -- KnightFire Posted by KnightFire on Oct. 01 2004,06:27
D'oh!I ment to say that: TomsRtBt doesn't boot for me. Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 01 2004,06:32
Since all cdroms are treated as scsi devices, the scd0 is quite normal..truly, hdb is only for a hard drive, but you may see it here before the scsi emulation kicks in.. The only times I get the "limited" messages is when the IBM is havng problems reading your CD... Did you try a slower burn speed ? (4x or 2x or 1x ) 73 ke4nt Posted by KnightFire on Oct. 01 2004,06:43
Hi ke4nt,Wow! Fast reply! My burn was at 4x to a business card sized CDR. Hmm... it may be a bad burn... muLinux can mount it but index.html may be corrupt (everything else appears fine). I'll check the cd5sum of the CDR to see if it's bad. -- KnightFire Posted by KnightFire on Oct. 02 2004,05:53
D'oh! 0.8.2 ISO is too large for my business card CDRs, please see new topic under User Feedback.
Posted by guest on Oct. 06 2004,00:51
Well I am still having problems.When booting with fb800x600 the appears as a yellow mesh. It's as if it's using the wrong color depth or something similiar. Any way to make sure it's 16 bit ? Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 06 2004,02:46
Hmm.. well ... progress at least..Near the beginning of this thread, user Truman Jones states using fb800x600 on his Thinkpad 380D works fine.. In the beginning of this thread, a user with a 380ED has troubles.. Near the beginning of this thread, your first post states you have a Thinkpad 380 .. So, is it a "D" or an "ED" ? Here are the specs for the ED series.. < http://www-307.ibm.com/pc....ype=All > Here is a comparison chart - the 380/385 is the "D" series.. seems to have the same 1.125 MB video card in it as the "ED" series < http://www-307.ibm.com/pc....-3RMPD4 > 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Oct. 08 2004,20:29
Thinkpad 380EDThe middle one : 2635-6AU This is how I know my laptop's specs I have already been to this website. Problem I am having is getting DSL to match what I need. The resolution should be 800x600x16 but I can't get a veiwable desktop there is too much distortion with both xvesa and xfbdev. So I am trying to find out what settings are wrong. Posted by ke4nt1 on Oct. 08 2004,22:42
Read this thread, since this box uses a similar chipset as yours..< http://damnsmalllinux.org/cgi-bin....a+modes > basically, startup with " dsl xsetup vga=789 " or " dsl xsetup vga=787 " Then try setting it up using xvesa at 800x600 at 16 bit Since there are a couple of options for the LCD screen, this may be the difference. Give it a go, and let us know.. 73 ke4nt Posted by guest on Oct. 14 2004,22:24
dsl xsetup vga=787ok that did it. but does anyone know why ? what did that do and what do I do about making sure that is how it will boot from now on. i would eventually install this to my hd if turns out to be easier than other distros but I would need to make sure the video will work ok before hand. |