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Topic: My beef with DLS 8.0, What the hell?

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THEBINARYMAN Offline

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Posted: Aug. 30 2004,18:53

Ok guys, I don't mean to criticize the lastest version of DSL, I know you guys work hard on it and all and you have been doing great!!

But this time you blew it! The modifications you made were a step in the WRONG direction.

The boot up system for starts, rather than stick with the battle-tested Boot.img approach you used some new tech that has been proven to not work at all for newbies or even to those who are savvy enough.

I know you guys wanted an updated kernel and all, but personally. If a system isn't broken and works pretty damn well, don't fix it.

As for the rest. Well, the thing is I liked about DSL was it's DAD approach (DAD= Down and Dirty). This isn't DAD, it's GAG (Guaranteed to Agravate the Geek).

But that's not to say it doesn't have it's strong points. I like the rest of the updated scripts. It rocks. But guys, that boot sequence, that's about 32 flavours of frustration.

Personally, I'll stick to 7.3 until I see something better. It's ok, don't be discouraged, even the best screw up once in a while.

TBM

laughing_gas Offline

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Posted: Aug. 30 2004,19:54

Re: DAD vs. GAG
boot 'dsl xsetup'

BigKen
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Posted: Aug. 31 2004,00:48

I'll have to agree with THEBINARYMAN. I've been a proud user of Damn Small Linux since 0.4.8 on my IBM 380D. I think you guys have done an excellent job. I try to tell everyone about Damn Small Linux. But, I've never had a problem until this release, version 0.8.0. I'm getting the following message:

ISOLINUX 2.04 (Debian, 2003-06-06) isolinux: Image checksum error, sorry...

Boot failed: press a key to retry...

It works on my other computers except my old laptop. I have no choice but to stick with 0.7.3. By the way, I like Damn Small Linux better than DSL.

cbagger01

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Posted: Aug. 31 2004,01:48

FYI,

Damn Small Linux is based on the Knoppix livecd.

The Knoppix livecd is a dynamic project that changes constantly as new advances are made in the Linux kernel and also in order to support new generations of hardware like the latest wireless lan cards.

Unfortunately, the Knoppix team has recently switched to ISOLINUX as the bootloader because there were major problems with SYSLINUX (used in older versions of Knoppix and DSL) for many users of newer computers.

In order for DSL to stay on top of new hardware support, they must keep current with the knoppix base or switch to some other equivalent base.

The downside of this is that ISOLINUX does not work right with some older computers so we are trapped between a rock and a hard place.

I believe that the correct course of action is to move ahead and pay the price of the loss of some backwards compatibility.

Users of these computers can still download and burn a copy of 0.7.3 so they are not completely abandoned.

There may yet be a solution to the ISOLINUX dilemma. Have you tried the "poorman's install" alternative?

Another possibility is to try a floppy bootloader like smart boot manager.

Hopefully a solution is achievable.

DonttPanic Offline

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Posted: Aug. 31 2004,01:55

I personally believe the upgrade of the kernel was a step in the right direction. Just as one example, there is added support for hyper-threading processors. DSL is not only designed for old computers with minimal resources. It can be used in fast machines, and when running from RAM, DSL is simply amazing. Keep in mind, this is the first version of DSL to run from this kernel, so there will be bugs and other problems. Your input with problems can help in the development and improvement of DSL.

I, too, am going to stick with 0.7.3 for now because in 0.8, I was experiencing issues with the .uci extensions with the HD install. It seemed that after rebooting, I would have to "mount" the uci again to be able to access the program. The only program that I tried this with, however, was Firefox.

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