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Topic: Smaller, nearly apps-less DSL?, Survey Part 2

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cmanb

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Posted: April 18 2006,15:46

I would like to see a DSL-stripped (DSL-naked?).

There are many applications packaged with DSL that I rarely use on a day-to-day basis, if at all!

For example, I don't use Beaver and rarely use Ted. I rarely use Emefm and have never used Midnight Commander. I rarely use Firefox; Dillo usually suits my needs. I don't use jvwm. I don't play the games.

The "nevers", obviously, I wouldn't miss. The "rarely"s, obviously, I would prefer to load as an extension should I need them.

I envision this theoretical DSL-naked as a graphic, extensible tomsrtbt: barebones, but very functional.

I'm not sure what actual use it would be to me to have a 32mb DSL, but it sure would be fun to play with.

It would not replace DSL for me, but could lay the grounds for highly specialized systems. For example, DSL-naked would be well suited for setting an internet kiosk.

Meh. Them's me thoughts.

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kerry

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Posted: April 30 2006,20:34

I'm reading alot of people are worried about the current DSL being changed to a striped, i'm sure it would be optional. I've been wondering if it were possiable to just add a script that just does not load the apps when activated via cheat code.

mikshaw

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Posted: April 30 2006,20:42

Quote (kerry @ April 30 2006,16:34)

I've been wondering if it were possiable to just add a script that just does not load the apps when activated via cheat code.

That would be possible only if the applications were provided as a separate package within the ISO (e.g. the uci package that was mentioned). DSL ISO is currently built of three parts, the kernel, the bootloader, and a KNOPPIX file. Since everything in the filesystem is compressed inside KNOPPIX, there is no way to disable the installation of apps.

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kerry

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Posted: April 30 2006,20:58

Soory, had to cut my first post short. I was thinking how about leaving all the apps and loading a bare system via cheat code script at boot.

For example: Have a script called "bare" and when selected at boot, would just run down a list of apps to load which(would be >dsl browser,contol panel,and emelfm) would be loaded instead of a full desktop, kinda like selecting the noicons cheat code at boot, thus it would just load the bare apps and everything else would stay on the disk instead of loading into ram. This would be far better than creating a whole new DSL version simply giving the advanced users more chose.

mikshaw

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Posted: April 30 2006,21:05

I agree that having this sort of behavior would be closer to ideal, but just to burst another bubble...
Applications don't initially load into ram unless you use the "toram" boot option. In a liveCD/frugal/embedded system the KNOPPIX file is mounted, and ram usage increases only when you start an application. The apps themselves are still located on the CD or harddrive. This minimal DSL we're talking about would have very little effect on RAM unless you run toram (or, I'm guessing, if you have so little ram that your available inodes are eaten up quickly. I don't really understand inodes, so i'm just supposing.) . As I see it, it would be mostly for saving disk space, and for a more efficient toram system.

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