WDef
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Posted: April 01 2007,23:09 |
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Hi all,
1. John's original concept and Robert's fine exposition of it is a proven, winning formula viz.
Functional, fun desktop + 50MB cap = damnsmalllinux
Everyone loves it. So, whatever else may happen, I'd hate to see the "dsl classic" side of the project simply dissappear - that would be foolish. And people need a single cd dsl like it is ie boot it and use it, no fooling around with loading modules. Whichever kernel and whatever other directions are pursued, I really think that's what defines dsl.
2. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean there isn't room for experimentation on the side. I absolutely *love* the sound of the Rox Desktop dsl. Even if it goes nowhere Robert, please post your efforts somewhere so we can play with it.
Changing kernels: I personally would like to see a more advanced 2.4.34 50MB dsl, but I'm mindful this resulted in alienating the old hardware users last time (2.4.31). How many of them are there? Are they a small percentage of users? Can this be worked around?
Finally: I thought the dsl classic + dsl-n model was a very good one, providing two development paths for each kernel and moving ahead from dsl's old glibc and gtk1. These are more of a barrier to new apps than the actual kernel. I know there were resource problems, and these won't go away for another revision of the dsl project (I may take this up with Robert privately as I have some ideas). I do think however dsl-n was alpha released a little early. To garner more interest, it needed things like a few essential extensions ready to use, and a clear demarcation between dsl classic extensions and dsl-n extensions. There still is a lot of interest and it would be really great to see dsl-n revitalized.
I guess obviously the limit is really how much in the way of resources Robert and John and the community can muster.
The modular approach sounds great and I would like it myself very much, but *not* if it's at the expense of a tight full desktop 50MB distro. That needs to remain no matter what. The people wanting the modular version are probably more advanced users and hobbyists, but dsl picks up a large number of totally new linux users all the time. They need to be able to boot a single cd and see a working distro.
I could see a modularized dsl being an interesting child project perhaps for others to pursue if it's outside the resources of John & Robert to implement.
If economies of scale can be created so the work that goes into one arm of the project easily transfers to another, then great.
Anyway enough out of me tonight.
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