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Question: Moving Forward - What's Your Desire? :: Total Votes:52
Poll choices Votes Statistics
Update DSL Kernel to 2.4.34 12  [23.08%]
Update DSL Kernel to 2.6.20 7  [13.46%]
Update DSL-N Kernel to 2.6.20 2  [3.85%]
Forget the Kernel update the Apps in DSL 10  [19.23%]
Merge DSL and DSL-N (much larger in size) 2.4 based 0  [0.00%]
Merge DSL and DSL-N (much larger in size) 2.6 based 1  [1.92%]
Remove many apps providing a tiny core based on using MyDSL 2.4 9  [17.31%]
Remove many apps providing a tiny core based on using MyDSL 2.6 8  [15.38%]
Focus on DSL-N and backport refinements when possible to DSL 3  [5.77%]
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Posted: May 06 2007,15:32 QUOTE

We all choose what to be ignorant of. I can't fix my car, so I take it to the dealer for maintenance. I go a Dr. when I'm sick because I don't know enough to diagnose myself, and the laws won't let me write myself a prescription anyway.

The traditional Linux attitude is "If you're not willing to pay a knowledge cost, you're stuck with Microsoft." I find that truly arrogant. I'd like to see this replaced with "You don't have to pay the monopolist OR struggle to learn something arcane. Here's something that's easy and free. Enjoy."

Choosing to skill yourself at computer usage is not inherently better than choosing plumbing or carpentry.
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Posted: May 06 2007,19:01 QUOTE

Right on Stoneguy.  And it must be noted that the pioneering leaders in friendly Linux are undoubtedly DSL; Knoppix; Ubuntu; Puppy; and SLAX.  All I'm saying to Robert is: Don't sacrifice any friendliness. I voted for tiny 2.6 core with most apps in myDSL based on my guess regarding what is most friendly / least intimidating to newbies.
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Posted: May 06 2007,23:28 QUOTE

About debian/apt compatibility: this is great for new users, esp. those on hd-installs, that can easily try to install software without asking for a mydsl extension or learning how to compile from source.  If it isn't in mydsl, I try apt next.  Even though there are many incompatibilities as it is, it's still great when it works - saves you a lot of time.  I don't think we would ever get a true account of which features of DSL are actually used the most, etc. but I actually think that most new users to DSL try apt for their fav. software.

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The traditional Linux attitude is "If you're not willing to pay a knowledge cost, you're stuck with Microsoft." I find that truly arrogant. I'd like to see this replaced with "You don't have to pay the monopolist OR struggle to learn something arcane. Here's something that's easy and free. Enjoy."
stoneguy: I don't get what you mean.  If you mean support as in paid support services, you can buy Linux distros with that included, or even bundled machines.  You probably could even just buy the service if you already have the distro (excepting 'enterprise' distros, of course).  The Linux attitude that I've been accustomed to is choice and variety.  Also, a new user to computers learning how to use Windows can be as hard/easy as any other modern operating system.  Maybe except MacOSX where it seems the interface is more intuitive.  But this is getting off-topic again ;p
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Posted: May 07 2007,01:44 QUOTE

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Right on Stoneguy.  And it must be noted that the pioneering leaders in friendly Linux are undoubtedly DSL; Knoppix; Ubuntu; Puppy; and SLAX.  All I'm saying to Robert is: Don't sacrifice any friendliness. I voted for tiny 2.6 core with most apps in myDSL based on my guess regarding what is most friendly / least intimidating to newbies.

DSL certainly is friendlier than ZipSlack, which is what I had tried before that.  In zipslack, if you start x without realizing you have to configure it first it tries to fry your monitor.  DSL boots good on most PC's up to desktop, with icons already there, and a help file showing on the screen in Dillo.

Another thing I like is that, being knoppix based, you can hack the crap out of it without fear of screwing it up, because as long as you keep a backup copy of backup.tar.gz you can get it right back.
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Posted: May 07 2007,01:48 QUOTE

I downloaded a copy of DOSEMU from, uh, somewhere..?  I forget where, but it wasn't from the DSL site.  Anyway, it runs good, and way faster than dosbox, although some dos apps aren't getting the sound support (quake 1 gets it, jill of the jungle doesn't). I think that'd be a cool thing to put in a .uci file.
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