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lucky13

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Posted: April 15 2008,20:23

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Scripts that automatically replace FF for Opera, or FF for FF2 would be a really good idea actually.

No need to replace what's not there. Include dillo, add menu entries:
<Menu label="download browser">
<Program label="Firefox 1.06 for vintage hardware">wget URI</Program>
<Program label="Firefox 2 GTK1">wget URI</Program>
<Program label="Firefox 2 GTK2 - requires GTK2 extension!">wget URI</Program>
<Program label="Opera">wget URI</Program>
</Menu>

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bulldozer

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Posted: April 15 2008,20:44

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It is this that gives us pause to remove/strip DSL.
bulldozer wrote:

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Perhaps adding some better directions to Opera for newbs on slow hardware.

We now have a better mydsl browser/loader tool with search.
It is now even easier to find and load extensions.

Perhaps a compromise would be to have download script(s) on the menu like there is for gnu-utils and dpkg-restore (Enable Apt)

I am sorry for my comments if you feel they've undermined your accomplishments. Being new to DSL from other distros one can forget what linux was like back in the 2.4 days and overlook all the work a small team has done with DSL and that small team has kept up with what hundreds of developers have done to the mainstream distros.

I forgot that along the way to ease of use the mainstream distros have added tons of bloat and what DSL packs in 50MB (a distro, two window managers, a rather comprehensive package manager, and most software one would need on a daily basis) is amazing.

I forget that linux newbies aren't going to go for DSL because it does not hide the command line from the user. Nor should it. You have provided an asset to the community for serious use and for fun.

I found Opera quickly in mydsl after thinking about possible alternates to firefox. There is no need for better directions, I take back my comments.

roberts

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Posted: April 15 2008,20:52

The scripts wouldn't be to replace the existing FF v1.06 as that would mean a remaster.

But if I remove FF from the iso, then offer script(s) to download a browser.

The negative of download scripts is that the source will likely change. DSL once used a download script to fetch firefox, then the release would change and the iso became broken. This time, since we are hosting FF in the mydsl repository, that would not be an issue.

The other negative of a download script is the target. If one understands mydsl it is not a problem, but then a download script would not be necessary. Otherwise where to download this large static blob. Not in home/dsl as your backup would take forever and likely break. Besides a large static blob does not belong in home.
Using mydsl's unspecified location of /tmp, means download will be lost upon shutdown. Therefore the download script does not seem the best solution.

Perhaps the "Getting Started" document can better explain using MyDSL in particular howto get a better browser than Dillo and have it persist.

roberts

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Posted: April 15 2008,20:54

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I am sorry for my comments if you feel they've undermined your accomplishments.

I don't take it that way. I take this as real honest feedback and food for thought.

roberts

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Posted: April 18 2008,19:48

I am closing the poll, as I have heard from John today.
Since DSL has always had the goal of being a useful desktop and given the fact that development on DSL v3.x has been stopped. And since the goal of DSL v5 will be a tiny core.

We decided that DSL v4.x should continue the goal of trying to provide a complete desktop. To this end, v4.3 will include an updated the Firefox browser (Gtk1 v2) This is the version that John has worked on to reduce size and still fit within the 50MB image.

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