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Posted: Mar. 23 2004,03:57 QUOTE

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After messing with this POS for 3 days, I have come to the conclusion that it just doesn't live up to the hype.  Issues?

And the hype you've heard about this distro is...?  The distro is primarily intended to be a 50MB "live cd".  What'd you expect?  Mozilla?    OpenOffice?  Gnome? Kde?  It's safe to say you had  unrealistic expectations, it's also fairly safe to say you're being an ####### about it.

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Just because YOU don't want to go above 50mb doesn't mean others don't.  There are a lot of useful programs people want.  You shouldn't force them into not using them.

If John and crew caved and branched out beyond 50Megs then the project has failed.  Install the distro to hard drive and do a dpkg-restore, you can install till your heart's content.  The live CD needs to remain at 50MB, while it might not be enough for you, there are plenty of people who are perfectly content with things the way they are.  Personally, I don't see any need to change things just because you're not getting your way and want to cry like a big, bottle-sucking baby.

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Whether it's for me or not isn't the issue.  It's the fact that things are broken and instead of telling people how to fix them, the common response I see is "It'll be fixed in the next release".

Unless you're having compiler issues, probably due to the use of busybox instead of gcc, I'm not running into anything that's broken.  I doubt DSL'll switch out busybox for a fullblown gcc anytime soon due to size constraints.  And if you don't like it, I encourage you to make your own.  Set up a website (with your own money), develop the distro (on your own time), and set up a forum that answers your users questions (instantaneously, because you obviously have the time).  And then when we get more users of your mindset we can direct them to your distribution that will obviously fill their required niche, and everyone will be happy.  That is until you get some user on your messageboard that throws a tantrum and calls you a loser  because you didn't include  vlc in your distribution.

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Guys, if you're gonna put something like this out, make sure it works before you do.  Read your forums...you'll find out what people want.

There's nothing wrong with DSL, it works as advertised.  Fullblown desktop and plenty of apps to go with it.  You didn't get exactly what you wanted on your timetable, boo-ing-hoo.

I hate to be like this, but you're being anything but diplomatic about this.  It seems to me like you downloaded an iso, burnt it to disk, tried it out and it wasn't exactly what you wanted, so you fell in the floor like a two-year-old in a department store kicking and screaming until you got your way.  Only this time it doesn't look like the little screaming fit is going to work.

I do have a suggestion for you though, why don't you be a nice man and email John and offer to pay him in order to get the functionality you want added to the CD.  If he accepts your offer, you get what you want and DSL get's a little more funding and you don't come off sounding like a little brat complaining about he didn't get the exact shade of blue transformer he wanted for his birthday.


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Posted: Mar. 23 2004,03:59 QUOTE

Well, here is your answer dude.
Dan is so right, it is simply to use the /opt/bootlocal.sh and backup/ restore
Add the following lines to /opt/bootlocal.sh
ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.12 netmask 255.255.255.0
route add default gw 192.168.0.1

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Posted: Mar. 23 2004,12:51 QUOTE

No, I tried it for 3 days.  Things like apt-get having errors like "size mismatch" makes it kinda hard to install what you want.  Not being able to reset your IP makes it kinda hard to install what you want.  As a live CD?  Yes it is fine.  As a hard drive install?  No, too many issues.

I looked at many small distros and they all have the same common problem....multimedia support sux.  When I try to play an mpeg I get seg fault errors.  I imagine that's due to busybox or fluxbox.

My own distro?  Yes I will most likely do it, and yes I DO have the time to answer peoples questions.  I answer them on other forums usually before the authors do.  

And as for donations or paying someone, when and if I ever find the one that does really support multimedia and works easily in the upgrade department, I will engage them to develop it further for my needs.  But thats the whole point.  If you can't get an answer to a question relatively quickly, why would you engage them to take it a step further?

Oh, and thanks roberts...but with mpeg's giving a seg fault it's kinda pointless now.
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Posted: Mar. 23 2004,18:47 QUOTE

I regually play mpegs, listen to internet radio, and stream audio. There was a problem with ogg/mp3 that has been fixed in 0.6.2. Believe me busybox has nothing to do with limiting the liveCD and all the apps therein.
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Posted: Mar. 24 2004,01:53 QUOTE

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No, I tried it for 3 days.  Things like apt-get having errors like "size mismatch" makes it kinda hard to install what you want.  Not being able to reset your IP makes it kinda hard to install what you want.

And in three days you couldn't figure out how to use the search feature on these forums.  Roberts seemed to be able to find the solution to your problem on this forum in just a few minutes.  I myself told you how to get around the apt-get problem--"dpkg-restore".

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I looked at many small distros and they all have the same common problem....multimedia support sux.

Other people don't seem to be having your problems... I don't know your particular problems, but if nothing you've tried seems to work, the problem might not be with the distributions.  Just a thought.

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My own distro?  Yes I will most likely do it, and yes I DO have the time to answer peoples questions.  I answer them on other forums usually before the authors do.

I'm proud for you, I hope it works out as well as you think it will.  I think you'll appreciate John's effort more, once you undertake your own distro.

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And as for donations or paying someone, when and if I ever find the one that does really support multimedia and works easily in the upgrade department, I will engage them to develop it further for my needs.  But thats the whole point.  If you can't get an answer to a question relatively quickly, why would you engage them to take it a step further?

If you're looking for multimedia support, have you tired Dyne:bolic, they're primarily a multimedia distribution and their latest ISO is 612MB.  I doubt you're gonna find/create a multimedia distro under 100MB, but I encourage you to prove me wrong.

DSL isn't for you, that's the way it goes sometimes.  Hope you find/create what you're looking for...best of luck.


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