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Topic: A problem with 0.7.2 bootability?, Boot failed

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Posted: July 24 2004,17:32

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However, since 3.4 is still relatively new and rebuilding DSL is a major effort, even more so considering that 3.4 contains two (2) different kernels, I would not count on a rebuild in the immediate future.

Being the developer of Feather, I can safely assure you that it wasn't particularly difficult at all

All I had to do was remove the 2.6 kernel from the system with dpkg and from the isolinux image, and create a boot floppy (easily done using syslinux). Then it was largely just an apt-get job. Still, if DSL works, why possibly break it? It'll probably happen eventually, but for now I think a 3.3 remaster does the job for most people.
In case you're wondering why I converted Feather to 3.4 in the first place, it was really just a clean-up of all the cruft I'd accumulated in development, and I happened to get the latest kernel and better hardware recognition as a bonus. I also think that a remaster from 3.4 is slightly smaller, oddly enough.

Incidentally, I think the Promise ATA could be the key - there've been numerous reports of bugs with that and Knoppix 3.3. Merely see www.knoppix.net/forum for a few examples.

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Posted: July 24 2004,22:43

I don't know whose quote that is, but none of the developers with DSL have said that. In fact, we have had a version based on 3.4 that has been in beta testing concurrently since 0.7.1. Yes, I would say we are more on the conservative side, so as to not to intoduce too many changes, or bugs, at once. Believe it or not we do plan what will be included and when with each release. We also go through many testing cycles so as to try to provide a very solid release. The in-house based on 3.4 is just going through a longer testing cycle. Another point, is that DSL is not just a stripped down remaster of Knoppix. It has grown and matured providing its own unique features. Many firsts for liveCD were developed here. Take a look at the milestones. We are still Knoppix derived and fully recognize the benefits that Knoppix provides to many liveCD based systems. Another factor has been the overwhelming sucess of the myDSL concept. It has been accepted and grown faster than we may have anticipated. The last time I looked there are over 79 contributions to both sections of the repository. Thanks to those who have contributed and to Ke4nt1 for helping manage such fast growth in that area.

jlowell

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Posted: July 25 2004,01:41

TyphonMentat, roberts & cbagger01,

OK, now I'm really confused.

I can boot with Feather which uses KNOPPIX 3.4 but can't with DSL which uses KNOPPIX 3.3. Yet Feather was put together using syslinux, a fact which I'd thought we'd concluded was the cause of the failure of DSL, and not isolinux, the constituent that was an indicator of success for the Promise Card with KNOPPIX 3.4 vs KNOPPIX 3.3. Oy! I'm reminded of the line from the Irving Berlin tune,"TomAAto, Tomato, PotAAto, Potato, lets call the whole thing off".

Have I understood you correctly, TyphoonMentat, Feather employs syslinux, not isolinux as the bootloader? I thought it was the other way around: KNOPPIX gave up on isolinux after 3.3 because of bugs and with 3.4 started in with syslinux.

roberts, if you have a beta based on KNOPPIX 3.4 available at the moment I'd like to test it. There have to be a lot of machines out there with the Promise Ultra TX-2 100 on them and a success with the beta just might be diagnostic.

jlowell

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Posted: July 25 2004,02:11

Knoppix 3.4 uses isolinux, before it was using syslinux. DSL 0.7.x and prior has syslinux. The DSL testing version has isolinux. These two are very different in how things are packed for booting. If Knoppix 3.4 works then I am sure the new testing version will work. It will be sooner than you think.

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Posted: July 25 2004,02:13

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we have had a version based on 3.4 that has been in beta testing

Well, we now know at least one of the notes for the changelog of DSL 0.8.0 ^_^

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